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Old 09-10-2014, 04:25 PM   #46
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[citation needed]
Indeed! +1
 
Old 09-10-2014, 05:53 PM   #47
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Choose your software.

Try a minimal template.
Use removepkg.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 10:50 PM   #48
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Most of what I see in the menus is from the standard KDE suite. For a distro maintainer to package KDE as a whole make sense to me.
Yep. If you leave KDE out, you end up with a relatively lean & mean system which is still as "featureful" as we've come to expect. But, for me, it's the little things that make me want keep KDE. Silly things like the on-screen ruler, notes, etc., which make the whole thing that little bit more practical.
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As for the others: "which packages would you liked to see dropped in future Slackware versions" might be an interesting thread.
NONE!
 
Old 09-10-2014, 11:05 PM   #49
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OK so the OP has even said this was a rant and he misused the word bloated... he brings up an interesting point. Not, in my view, because of the amount of disk space taken up by a full install, but rather by the sheer amount of space taken up in the KDE menus.

Oh well. It's not like Slackware forces a full install (though it does encourage it). What can you really say, though, in response to a criticism like that other than to say that if you don't want so many packages installed, don't install so many packages!

...this post is about as redundant as the OP.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 11:28 PM   #50
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Maybe we could find a few packages to trim, but finding which packages to trim could be hard to do as many are tied in as dependencies to other system components.

The only one I can think off the top of my head is "Dragon Player and/or KMPlayer" maybe. We have MPlayer as it is.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 11:47 PM   #51
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Maybe we could find a few packages to trim, but finding which packages to trim could be hard to do as many are tied in as dependencies to other system components.

The only one I can think off the top of my head is "Dragon Player and/or KMPlayer" maybe. We have MPlayer as it is.
Here's your trimmed KDE:

http://www.microlinux.fr/slackware/M...es/kde/tagfile
 
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Old 09-11-2014, 05:22 AM   #52
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Yep. If you leave KDE out, you end up with a relatively lean & mean system which is still as "featureful" as we've come to expect.
I have left out the kde/ and kdei/ packages in my installation. The cumulative size of the packages in those directories is 977M which would probably be about double that size when installed.
 
Old 09-11-2014, 06:41 AM   #53
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I installed Slackware 64 for a relative recently. I ended up taking it off and replacing it with Debian stable (much to my annoyance) because of some of the crap they need installed and because they needed the system fully localised in another language.

Before I hosed it, Slackware occupied ~ 7GB of the 250GB HDD I installed on. They will use KDE so it's staying on, even if they didn't I don't see the point in removing it unless really pushed for space.

I don't think the original post referred to installed size however? I took it as more of an observation in terms of the workload involved maintaining all that, so I find some of the replies confusing.

My take on this is that if Pat decides stuff will go (a la gnome) then it's likely that it will.
 
Old 09-11-2014, 07:13 AM   #54
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I installed Slackware 64 for a relative recently. I ended up taking it off and replacing it with Debian stable (much to my annoyance) because of some of the crap they need installed and because they needed the system fully localised in another language.
Just out of curiosity: what crap and what language? My daily job consists in installing Slackware for Joe-Sixpack-type users, so maybe I can help you out with that.
 
Old 09-11-2014, 07:52 AM   #55
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It was spanish and the crap is google chrome and skype. There are maintained packages and repos for these under Debian so they will get updates, etc. I use neither myself so couldn't care less.

I had this vision of people on the phone in a few months from now trying to upgrade stuff and it all going horribly wrong, hence why I did not bother pursuing it and working on the localisation stuff (beyond changing KDE's user locale to spanish). We're talking about people who barely know the right mouse click from the right mouse click and who will probably hose the thing and pay to get pirate windows installed locally at the first sign of trouble - so not worth the effort. But thanks anyway.

 
Old 09-11-2014, 09:00 AM   #56
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We're talking about people who barely know the right mouse click from the right mouse click
I guess I'm one of those people also. I can't tell the difference.
 
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Old 09-11-2014, 09:03 AM   #57
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Another one here.
 
Old 09-11-2014, 09:16 AM   #58
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During an installation of Windows 7 in French I saw something like "32 minutes gauche". It took me a few seconds to realize that was the translation of "32 minutes left"
 
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Old 09-11-2014, 09:21 AM   #59
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during an installation of windows 7 in french i saw something like "32 minutes gauche". It took me a few seconds to realize that was the translation of "32 minutes left"
*rotfl*
 
Old 09-11-2014, 09:22 AM   #60
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32 minutes restantes (Thanks, google translate )
 
  


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