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Old 12-14-2011, 09:54 PM   #31
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Slackware's KISS principle is priceless, for anything else there is Ubuntu.

 
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:11 AM   #32
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Slackware's KISS principle is priceless, for anything else there is Ubuntu.
Some answers are very immature... >.> I know I said it in general term.

I did not mean the installation easier for some people. Instead have some opinion about some good software that could change to improve the distribution on security, performance and other areas. Like useful application, for everyone I mean server and workstation. =)

If you opinion is "I don't use it at all" is not helping... That not mean no one use it, may be a lot of people use it and may be is not a bad idea include on a future release, for some reason, no one know...

Some opinion are good, and some guys has a good point.

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John

Last edited by JohnV2; 12-15-2011 at 09:20 AM. Reason: I forgot something =)
 
Old 12-15-2011, 09:35 AM   #33
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Some answers are very immature...
Like this one?
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I'm not going to say "a bar and lapdancers" as I did on a previous thread like this.
 
Old 12-15-2011, 10:08 AM   #34
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While it's a great little tool, I don't use src2pkg very often. Having said that, unlike LibreOffice, both sbopkg and src2pkg wouldn't take much space on the installation medium.

If Pat is reading this thread, he might be smiling and thinking: dream on, guys
Yeah, I know. But, I can dream.
 
Old 12-15-2011, 10:52 AM   #35
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Some answers are very immature... >.> I know I said it in general term.
You will get that in any forum. Be it moderated or not. Some people feel joviality helps to soften the replies. Usually due to their inabilities to directionally address the query in a balanced intellectual response/presentation.
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I did not mean the installation easier for some people. Instead have some opinion about some good software that could change to improve the distribution on security, performance and other areas. Like useful application, for everyone I mean server and workstation. =)
We have experienced this type of query many times here at Slackware LQ. Do a LQ Search to find the many request of this type. Some senior members do get tired of the same old repeated query like: 'Default apps on slackware, what do you think?'. Most die hard Slackers like the Distribution as it is handled by PV and team. We are able to adjust, fix or modify to suit as desired. I cannot speak for PV or team but most members do peruse the Slackware forum. Sometimes things have been added to Slackware as a result of Slackware users requests presented here. If you have issues with a particular package or software that is not packaged for Slackware then use the Official Slackware forum with a positive, well documented query.

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If you opinion is "I don't use it at all" is not helping... That not mean no one use it, may be a lot of people use it and may be is not a bad idea include on a future release, for some reason, no one know...

Some opinion are good, and some guys has a good point.

Best regards,
John
Slackware user/audience is a varied base. PV cannot include everything. That is one of the reasons to use or support Slackbuilds which is a good source of additional packages for users. Please be sure to read the FAQ.

We do know the reasons for not having some of the before mentioned packages included in Slackware releases. It is PV's decision and the use of KISS principle technique that does win out in the end.

'src2pkg' would be nice to include in the new release '/extra' but doesn't take long to install anyway. As to LibreOffice and VLC inclusion: Why? Easy to get from Alien_Bob's slackbuild repository or mirror. VLC media player codecs can be difficult to distribute without permissions and also local laws may prevent or not allow distribution. So why jumped into the fire? As stated before use the repositories.

One additional thought for exclusion of large applications in that PV may not wish to use valuable space for things like OO or LibreOffice. User base for the before mentioned are varied. My money is on LibreOffice for the maintainers forward thinking for development & distribution.
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Old 12-16-2011, 04:30 AM   #36
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Some answers are very immature...
If you ask immature questions that's what you get. There's no such a thing as "default apps" on Slackware. You're applying a Windows or Mac terminology to Slackware.
 
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:30 AM   #37
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Talking

Give me good reasons for omitting htop?
I see none, and install it most times (only one install for a 3rd party missed it)?

I feel we lack some serious ACPI scripts on Slackware long time now (had written a decent one though for a laptop I used)

I would love to see some package manager in /testing (/extra), I know it's easier to walk foot by foot, but there are so many runners lately... (be it slapt-get or sbopkg, or whatever)

And i don't mind missing:
libre office/open office
inkscape
blender

And if all above has no value to consider, then remove the :
E, KDE, KDEI, and T series altogether;
decide is it blackbox or fluxbox and ditch one for good


that should free up some space for the incoming security bloat (obscurity trough perplexity?) support; ext4, reiser4, cifs(n+1), and what ever (jfs2?)

P.S.
what ever become of linux of the old days?

P.P.S.
You know i was kidding , just add that htop okay?

P.P.P.S.
If You don't add it, i'm really going to ditch blackbox and kde!
 
Old 12-16-2011, 07:42 AM   #38
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VLC media player codecs can be difficult to distribute without permissions and also local laws may prevent or not allow distribution. So why jumped into the fire? As stated before use the repositories.
Excellent point! I forgot about that issue. Agreed. That could prove to be troublesome. I know that it is unlikely that Libreoffice will be included due to space constraints (it would be nice though). Many thanks to Eric for maintaining and hosting his Libreoffice packages.
 
Old 12-16-2011, 12:02 PM   #39
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What about pcmanfm?
or qt-based bsc (beeSoft Commander)?
I miss a lightweight two pannel (as worker) and tree view in folder view with (otherwise excellent) Thunar.
My choice was konqueror in KDE3, but i don't like KDE that much since it become 4 for i can't make it go fast as it one was, and the RAM footprint is just to humongous for my setups (1GB DDR1 RAM/ AGPx8 VGA).
Where there:

a) improved menu support for fluxbox,
b) more shipped gkrellm plugins (gkrelltop, x86CPU MHz, bluetooth)
c) lighter than thunar file manager (but as complete or more as thunar is like PCmanFM, of Xfe)
d) wbar (maybe with idesk)

I could do even with fluxbox, since I don't miss eyecandy that much (i work on 'puters, don't just "hang around" ) but I must have removable media support, remote file transfers of all sorts, binary support to most software available (as Slackware has) and means to use those MIPS under the tin skin of my boxen

Many, many tanks to the excellent Slackware team and Eric and Robby (and others too) for their valuable contributions.

P.S.
I don't expect we bring out to the spotlight a "forehead splatter", just maybe find an overlooked item (or few)
;-)
And provide some (more) feedback for the ultimate of Linux distros IMHO
 
Old 12-16-2011, 01:28 PM   #40
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hey guys, maybe you missed it, but htop is in slackware-current since august.
 
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:07 AM   #41
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good to know of htop being in
 
Old 03-03-2012, 01:39 PM   #42
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I'd really like to see hard disk encryption an option in the installation scripts.

I vote for src2pkg, as well as tor, pidgin-otr, openbox, dotnew, and perhaps Claws Mail.
 
Old 03-04-2012, 03:05 AM   #43
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I'd like to see LibreOffice and VLC included.
Who doesn't need an office suite and a good media player once in a while?
It needs to be desktop independent since I will never use KDE or Gnome so their office apps are no-go for me.
 
Old 03-05-2012, 12:06 AM   #44
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I'd like to see sbopkg in /extra, as well as rxvt-unicode. Mpd would be nice to have off the bat, as its probably the most popular console music player. None of these things are particularly difficult to build on your own though, which is why I'm assuming they've never been put in.
 
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Old 03-05-2012, 03:19 AM   #45
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I'd really like to see hard disk encryption an option in the installation scripts.
Slackware's ecryption README are a pleasure to follow. It was one of the things I missed last Christmas when I migrated to Debian (and thus one of the reasons I am back to Slack). It gives you full control on how to encrypt your partitions without any fuss. You just have to be attentive and a bit patient.

However I agree that users who cannot resort to the CLI would not like it at all. For these, perhaps a hand-holding script could be useful, just as long as it does not get in the way.
 
  


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