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linda 06-19-2004 07:26 PM

darkstar install
 
Ok, I have installed slackware, and it boots fine off a floppy. I'm fidgiting around with lilo, trying to get it installed to hdb1 because hda1 has winxp.

But right now, I just want to see a nice familiar windows-type screen. In other words, I am trying to get x working. I typed in xf86config and did the best I could, then startx, but nothing loaded. Oh I am so lost! Does anyone feel like helping a total newcomer to slackware?

wallison 06-19-2004 07:48 PM

There are probably a lot of people here that feel like helping you, if you'd post an error message or something! ;^)

linda 06-19-2004 08:13 PM

Oh thank you! What should i post, exactly? I am going back and forth, booting my Win XP and then Linux so you'll have to bear with me if you can... It take a few minutes
I want to get my x going, and kde, if possibly.

linda 06-19-2004 08:33 PM

Well, i am hearing lots of thunder and there are storms coming, so i better shut down... I'll hope for some help in the morning, maybe... I have lynx working with my internet connection so I am coming along, ok, right?

wallison 06-19-2004 08:39 PM

Well, I guess you could start by which version of Slack you're using, which video card and monitor you're using, and the messages on the screen after you type "startx".

AlanL 06-19-2004 10:29 PM

You could try using xfree86setup. It probes your
computer and makes config file automatically.

linda 06-20-2004 10:48 AM

I installed Slackware 9.1 on a Pentium4, I have a Dell P792 Trinitron monitor which can handle 32-bit color and at least 85 herz refresh rate. Video is NVidia GeForce4 MX440.

The message on my screen after I type startx is something like no screen available. I'm going to boot it up again and write it down, and also I am going to try xfree86setup.

Just a quick question though, what is "darkstar"? I never typed that in as a username... Is that a Slackware default? :-)

SBing 06-20-2004 12:53 PM

I have a feeling that darkstar is the default hostname for your PC; I'm guessing you have set up the network yet :)

Steve

XPediTioN 06-20-2004 05:12 PM

It's the default name. If you want to change it run "netconfig" and make sure you use loopback =D

J.W. 06-20-2004 06:56 PM

If you are getting an error about "no screen found" I would suspect that your XF86Config file has flaws. First, make sure you have the vertical and horizontal sync rates for your monitor. They should be available in the owner's manual or you ought to be able to look them up online.

Next, as root, execute: /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config
This will go through a series of questions/answers, and naturally you need to answer according to your equipment's specs. Suggestions:

* Choose a moderate resolution (say, 1024x768) and color depth (16) at first. I'll assume that your video card has 64Mg but regardless, you don't want to select choices that would exceed the card's capabilities. You can always rerun the configuration process later if you wish to choose higher specs.

* You will definitely want to make sure that the vert and horiz sync rates match your monitor, which usually means that you have to enter them yourself rather than to choose a setting from the list. Using rates outside of your monitors capabilities could damage your monitor.

* At the end of all the questions, you will be asked to save the file. The output file from this process will be /etc/X11/XF86Config

* Reboot, and you should be in good shape. Note that you can manually edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config file, which you will probably need to do in order to enable the wheel mouse.

Good luck with it and you made a good choice with Slack -- J.W.

linda 06-20-2004 08:48 PM

I finally have x working with kde, but the screen resolution is very small, and I can't change it. I looked up my monitor's rates, and editied xf86config with those values. But when I re-start, I get the error code I wrote below.

I have a Dell 792, and it can handle Horiz 30-96, Vertical 48-170. But when I type those values it, x won't start, and I have to use xfree86setup to get x working again. And it works fine, except everything is so tiny!

My video card is nvidia and I updated those drivers according to directions. That all seems to be as it should be, with the proper entries in xf86config.

I think I am going to have to manually edit my xf86config. What would be the most conservative way to do that?

This is my file:
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "record"
Load "extmod"
Load "dbe"
Load "dri"
Load "xtrap"
Load "glx"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "speedo"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "DigitalVibrance" # <i>
#Option "NoFlip" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac8Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoLogo" # [<bool>]
#Option "UBB" # [<bool>]
#Option "Stereo" # <i>
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "HWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "VideoKey" # <i>
#Option "NvAGP" # <i>
#Option "IgnoreEDID" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoDDC" # [<bool>]
#Option "ConnectedMonitor" # <str>
#Option "ConnectedMonitors" # <str>
#Option "TVStandard" # <str>
#Option "TVOutFormat" # <str>
#Option "RenderAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "CursorShadow" # [<bool>]
#Option "CursorShadowAlpha" # <i>
#Option "CursorShadowXOffset" # <i>
#Option "CursorShadowYOffset" # <i>
#Option "UseEdidFreqs" # [<bool>]
#Option "FlatPanelProperties" # <str>
#Option "TwinView" # [<bool>]
#Option "TwinViewOrientation" # <str>
#Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" # <str>
#Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" # <str>
#Option "MetaModes" # <str>
#Option "UseInt10Module" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoRenderExtension" # [<bool>]
#Option "Overlay" # [<bool>]
#Option "CIOverlay" # [<bool>]
#Option "ForceEmulatedOverlay" # [<bool>]
#Option "TransparentIndex" # <i>
#Option "OverlayDefaultVisual" # [<bool>]
#Option "NvEmulate" # <i>
#Option "NoBandWidthTest" # [<bool>]
#Option "CustomEDID-CRT-0" # <str>
#Option "CustomEDID-CRT-1" # <str>
#Option "CustomEDID-DFP-0" # <str>
#Option "CustomEDID-DFP-1" # <str>
#Option "CustomEDID-TV-0" # <str>
#Option "CustomEDID-TV-1" # <str>
#Option "TVOverScan" # <f>
#Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" # <str>
#Option "MultisampleCompatibility" # [<bool>]
#Option "RegistryDwords" # <str>
#Option "NoPowerConnectorCheck" # [<bool>]
#Option "AllowDFPStereo" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName "NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440]"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

J.W. 06-20-2004 10:02 PM

Did you actually run the command (as root) /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config and is the listing in your post the contents of this file: /etc/X11/XF86Config I have to ask because if you did run the program, it would save a file under that name, but what you've listed does not contain any of the info that I'd expect to see there -- it does not include any meaningful info for your monitor, your video card, or your display settings.

If you didn't run the xf86config program, you need to do that first. Note that you need to be root to run that program. It will ask you a series of questions, with the last one being something along the lines of "I'm going to write a file to /etc/X11/XF86Config. Is that OK?" Answer Yes -- you want to save those changes. The saved file will be /etc/X11/XF86Config should look something like the following. Note that this is a copy of my XF86Config file, and it contains specifics for my system, which is different than yours. It's only for demonstration purposes, so that you can see what the end result should look like. There are a *lot* of commented-out lines in it, which can be safely ignored. -- J.W.

bash-2.05b$ more /etc/X11/XF86Config
# File generated by xf86config.

#
# Copyright (c) 1999 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
#
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

# NOTE: This is a NEW IMPROVED version of XF86Config-fbdev that uses the vesa
# driver instead of the fbdev driver. Thanks to Kenneth Fanyo who pointed
# this out to me. :)

# This XF86Config file is designed for use with the VESA framebuffer.
# This generic interface should work with nearly all video cards
# (although not every card will support every resolution).

# With the new driver, it should no longer be required to have frame buffer
# support in the kernel, or to run it on the console.
#
# Enjoy! :)
# -- volkerdi@slackware.com
#

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this section is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "speedo"

# This loads the GLX module
Load "glx"
Load "dri"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
#
# If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other
# programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory
# to the end of this list (or comment them out).
#

FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/"

# ModulePath can be used to set a search path for the X server modules.
# The default path is shown here.

# ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

# Option "NoTrapSignals"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12). This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

# Option "DontVTSwitch"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

# Option "DontZap"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events.

# Option "DontZoom"

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

# Option "DisableVidModeExtension"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client.

# Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"

# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings.

# Option "DisableModInDev"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).

# Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"

# Set the basic blanking screen saver timeout.

Option "blank time" "60" # 10 minutes

# Set the DPMS timeouts. These are set here because they are global
# rather than screen-specific. These settings alone don't enable DPMS.
# It is enabled per-screen (or per-monitor), and even then only when
# the driver supports it.

# Option "standby time" "20"
# Option "suspend time" "30"
# Option "off time" "60"

# On some platform the server needs to estimate the sizes of PCI
# memory and pio ranges. This is done by assuming that PCI ranges
# don't overlap. Some broken BIOSes tend to set ranges of inactive
# devices wrong. Here one can adjust how aggressive the assumptions
# should be. Default is 0.

# Option "EstimateSizesAggresively" "0"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "Keyboard"

# For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard").
# When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris),
# uncomment the following line.

# Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"

# Set the keyboard auto repeat parameters. Not all platforms implement
# this.

# Option "AutoRepeat" "500 5"

# Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)).

# Option "Xleds" "1 2 3"

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.

# Option "XkbDisable"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a European
# keyboard, you will probably want to use one of:
#
# Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
# Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
#
# If you have a Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#
# Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"
#
# If you have a US "windows" keyboard you will want:
#
# Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
#
# or:
#
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps"


# These are the default XKB settings for XFree86
#
# Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
# Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
# Option "XkbLayout" "us"
# Option "XkbVariant" ""
# Option "XkbOptions" ""

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver

Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"

# On platforms where PnP mouse detection is supported the following
# protocol setting can be used when using a newer PnP mouse:

# Option "Protocol" "Auto"

# The available mouse protocols types that you can set below are:
# Auto BusMouse GlidePoint GlidePointPS/2 IntelliMouse IMPS/2
# Logitech Microsoft MMHitTab MMSeries Mouseman MouseManPlusPS/2
# MouseSystems NetMousePS/2 NetScrollPS/2 OSMouse PS/2 SysMouse
# ThinkingMouse ThinkingMousePS/2 Xqueue

Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"

# The mouse device. The device is normally set to /dev/mouse,
# which is usually a symbolic link to the real device.

Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"

# Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
# Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
# Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS1"

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

# Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.

# Option "BaudRate" "9600"
# Option "SampleRate" "150"

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

# Option "Emulate3Buttons"
# Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

# Option "ChordMiddle"

EndSection

# Some examples of extended input devices

# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "spaceball"
# Driver "magellan"
# Option "Device" "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "spaceball2"
# Driver "spaceorb"
# Option "Device" "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "touchscreen0"
# Driver "microtouch"
# Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
# Option "MinX" "1412"
# Option "MaxX" "15184"
# Option "MinY" "15372"
# Option "MaxY" "1230"
# Option "ScreenNumber" "0"
# Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
# Option "ButtonNumber" "1"
# Option "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "touchscreen1"
# Driver "elo2300"
# Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
# Option "MinX" "231"
# Option "MaxX" "3868"
# Option "MinY" "3858"
# Option "MaxY" "272"
# Option "ScreenNumber" "0"
# Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
# Option "ButtonThreshold" "17"
# Option "ButtonNumber" "1"
# Option "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

Identifier "ViewSonic"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

HorizSync 30-70

# HorizSync 30-64 # multisync
# HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies
# HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

VertRefresh 50-120

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

Section "Device"
Identifier "7500"
Driver "ati"
VideoRam 65536
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "7500"
Monitor "ViewSonic"

# If your card can handle it, a higher default color depth (like 24 or 32)
# is highly recommended.

# DefaultDepth 8
# DefaultDepth 16
DefaultDepth 24
# DefaultDepth 32

# "1024x768" is also a conservative usable default resolution. If you
# have a better monitor, feel free to try resolutions such as
# "1152x864", "1280x1024", "1600x1200", and "1800x1400" (or whatever your
# card/monitor can produce)

Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout sections.
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present. Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised. A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option. In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.

Section "ServerLayout"

# The Identifier line must be present
Identifier "Simple Layout"

# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens. The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen. In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.

Screen "Screen 1"

# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used. Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".

InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

bash-2.05b$

linda 06-21-2004 05:39 PM

Apparently my listing isn't the file I thought it was. :-) I did find the one like yours, and have played around with it, and now i am in business! Not only that, but I got my printer working, in only a few minutes!
Thanks for the help! Seeing your file showed me what I should change in mine.


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