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Old 02-08-2008, 07:08 AM   #16
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I am fed up with this s****y drivers from ati. Are there any non-propreitory drivers for my ati radeon Xpress 1100 card available?
use radeon module drivers, they are open source, i hope within 2-3 yrs we will have a good open -driver for ati(a better one)
proprietary one is called "fglrx" module and open one is called "radeon"

i thnk ati is better than nvidia, atleast ati have open drivers.

when there was mark, square in shape came along with mouse cursor, after installing fglrx, i removed it by changing the option
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Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps"
Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
u can try changing acceleration method to use xaa instead or exa,

be in telinit3, change these parameters in xorg.cong and do startx.
"but ati is better than nvidia"
best of luck
 
Old 02-08-2008, 07:38 AM   #17
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Ok Krishna, I'll try out your suggestion.
 
Old 02-23-2008, 10:49 PM   #18
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Problems *seems* to have vanished after I upgraded the ati drivers.
 
Old 02-24-2008, 05:06 AM   #19
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That is a known problem with recent ATI/AMD drivers. My suggestion is to revert to an driver from before October 2007 if you need accelerated OpenGL. If that is the only problem you are having with recent fglrx, you are lucky. The new OpenGL code seems to combine all the bugs of the old driver with ingenious new ones and the instability of a 0.01 release.

The Xorg Ati driver project is making progress and the RadeonHD project looks interesting. Running development builds of these drivers requires building XOrg from SVN.
 
Old 02-24-2008, 08:29 AM   #20
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Ok, I'll look into it.
 
Old 02-24-2008, 11:55 PM   #21
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That is a known problem with recent ATI/AMD drivers. My suggestion is to revert to an driver from before October 2007 if you need accelerated OpenGL. If that is the only problem you are having with recent fglrx, you are lucky. The new OpenGL code seems to combine all the bugs of the old driver with ingenious new ones and the instability of a 0.01 release.

The Xorg Ati driver project is making progress and the RadeonHD project looks interesting. Running development builds of these drivers requires building XOrg from SVN.
my vote is for ati not nvidia!
hope within 1yr we will have a good opensource ati driver : radeon

adityavpratap, happy to hear from u tht the problem is solved

regards
 
Old 02-25-2008, 11:00 PM   #22
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rkrishna, are they paying you or something?
 
Old 02-26-2008, 02:07 AM   #23
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rkrishna, are they paying you or something?
haha.. i like to have some
i support them only because they are planning to go for open source, (that will be a good move) even with radeon driver we can have 3d

this nvidia onboard is bugging me like anything, from the release of slack12 i had to struggle a lot, still now x crashes, freezes, lockup.
i made this one after a long struggle, and now i am searching for a vga card, only ati, but the interesting thing is their xp driver never crashed!#@!$!#@$#@
 
Old 02-26-2008, 03:09 AM   #24
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rkrishna, you would definitely be in the minority for preferring ATI under Linux.
 
Old 02-27-2008, 12:43 AM   #25
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rkrishna, you would definitely be in the minority for preferring ATI under Linux.
yes earlier when i wrote a faq, i used nvidia and i was supporting that.

any hardware which support linux is welcome. in that way, i support ati.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/V...119372,00.html
 
Old 02-27-2008, 02:10 PM   #26
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Well, I understand preferring open-source, but if it doesn't work then what's the point? I mean, if I wanted all open-source stuff that made my computer crippled, I don't think I would have much fun. I still use Microsoft Office on Linux (I think OpenOffice is great, and numbering stuff in OpenOffice is 100x easier than in Microsoft Office [which is basically a nightmare if you want nested numbering], but it's just not at the same level yet, and since I have to format everything perfectly for school, OpenOffice is too much of a risk for me). I have heard tons of complaints about the ATI drivers, and just because there's an eventual promise of open-sourcing the drivers doesn't mean they're any good now or in the near future.

I hope you chose not to install xv when you installed Slackware! That would be a cardinal sin according to you! (Not that xv is really useful now anyway, but still...)

If you installed VirtualBox, would you choose the open version, which lacks important features, or the freeware version which is more feature-complete? I love open-source and definitely prefer it over proprietary stuff, but there's a point where it becomes stupid.
 
Old 02-28-2008, 01:59 AM   #27
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Well, I understand preferring open-source, but if it doesn't work then what's the point? I mean, if I wanted all open-source stuff that made my computer crippled, I don't think I would have much fun. I still use Microsoft Office on Linux (I think OpenOffice is great, and numbering stuff in OpenOffice is 100x easier than in Microsoft Office [which is basically a nightmare if you want nested numbering], but it's just not at the same level yet, and since I have to format everything perfectly for school, OpenOffice is too much of a risk for me). I have heard tons of complaints about the ATI drivers, and just because there's an eventual promise of open-sourcing the drivers doesn't mean they're any good now or in the near future.

I hope you chose not to install xv when you installed Slackware! That would be a cardinal sin according to you! (Not that xv is really useful now anyway, but still...)

If you installed VirtualBox, would you choose the open version, which lacks important features, or the freeware version which is more feature-complete? I love open-source and definitely prefer it over proprietary stuff, but there's a point where it becomes stupid.
thank god that i am not using openoffice, i know that it is not good as msoffice.

most of the time i install all the packages, tht means complete.

i completely agree with yuo that the older drivers of ati were hell!!!

now the newer versions of ati drivers are quite good, i can see the difference and i hope in near future they will give good drivers. as soon as amd took ati, there is a lot of change, they are collaborating with novel
 
Old 02-28-2008, 02:49 PM   #28
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Well, I do like AMD as a company, I will admit that much (I chose AMD over Intel -- partly because of price, partly otherwise). I think AMD is fairly innovative (or at least used to be). If ATI works for you, great. But nVidia works for me too, despite its closed-sourceness. Everybody wins since we have a choice.
 
Old 02-29-2008, 12:27 AM   #29
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I still use Microsoft Office on Linux
yesterday when i went home, thought about this and forgot to ask you how you did this. i tried with wine (long back) but never worked.
will you please share the information?.

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Everybody wins since we have a choice.
yes, a nice comment, i like it
 
Old 02-29-2008, 09:27 PM   #30
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I'm using MS Office 2000 through WINE (I also have it installed in a VM for particularly tricky stuff like copying a graph from Excel into Word, which does not work using both programs running under WINE). Word and Excel both work quite well. PowerPoint works but not perfectly (although it's still way better than Impress). I don't use Access (I didn't install it) and I definitely left out Outlook.

Office 2000 works well with WINE, other versions don't work well (or so I've heard). So if you've got another version, you may want to give VirtualBox a try for Office stuff. However, for Office 2000, I basically just installed WINE 0.9.42 (I installed this a while ago -- I don't know if newer versions work, but they should) using the SlackBuild from slackbuilds.org (they are now up to 0.9.52, while WINE is up to 0.9.56 -- you can probably just change the version in the script, although it *may* not work this easily). I then ran `winecfg`, set stuff up, and installed Office. Easy as that for me I think (it complained about not finding the proper fonts, but installation continued anyway). I selected only the components I wanted to install (no FrontPage, Outlook, Access, ...) and it worked (although it took excessively long). I used to have a good link to a guide that suggested installing IE to setup a good environment, and it worked, but I didn't need to do that when I installed it on this PC (I don't think it's necessary). From there I just fixed any problems that came up (I think I had to copy a DLL somewhere for PowerPoint to run the presentation, but those problems are easy to find because it tells you exactly what DLL is missing).

The Ubuntu forums have a good guide somewhere I think, so take a look there as well.
 
  


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