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How can it be illegitimate? I hate when people talk like this. It's illegitimate to change MAC, it's illegitimate to reverse BIOS, it's illegitimate to decrypt DVDs, it's illegitimate to reflash with RPC-1 firmware, it's illegitimate to make backup CDs, it's illegitimate to craft your own TCP/IP packets, it's illegitimate to use P2P, it's illegitimate to use "analog hole". What else? Soon it will be illegitimate to use your pc without MPAA, RIAA and Microsoft tracking your daily work.
You can do whatever you want with your own hardware. If providers rely on MAC address to limit pcs connectivity, that's their own problem.
Just because you find technology confusing and scary is no reason to try to take it out on other people.
Please attempt to cite a legitimate and constructive purpose for changing one's MAC address to a new one each boot so that we may properly ridicule your lack of knowledge. A bunch of poorly thought out and improperly constructed nonsense posing as (troll-style) arguments just isn't interesting enough to bother with.
Last edited by evilDagmar; 11-01-2007 at 03:05 AM..
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Maybe YOU haven't lived in a place where the legitimate reasons aren't correct. Where the admins are so crass and non-responsive to your concerns and problems that YOU have to do something about it yourself.
If you don't like the question , don't answer it. Others who do will!
how do I change the mac address on bootup but still be able to connect to a network (without mac filtering enabled)? The network I'm testing uses dhcp and usually an ip address is associated with my wireless interface. Should I edit the rc.local file? If so, how would I go about it? If it means anything, I'm using a laptop so usually I would first have to activate a wifi button to switch on the radio.
I used to do this when taking my laptop to a friend's house who used cable. His ISP would only allow a couple of registered MAC addresses to connect. I'm too paranoid to use WiFi, but I'm sure it's easy enough to translate this into something usable for yourself...
# MAC address spoofing
ifconfig eth0 down
ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:0f:3f:26:9f:07 up
/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1
I use a Linksys WRT54GL router (1.1) with DD-WRT installed. There is a script at the DD-WRT Wiki that allows modifying the router's MAC address every boot-up. Modifying the script for a Slackware box should be doable with a sed text string replacement in rc.inet1.conf.
Modifying the MAC address allows me to receive a different IP address with each connection session. I have no illusions that I am fooling the ISP nor do I even care to do so as he and I have a contract for services. I modify the MAC address as a simple privacy measure so that people at the other end of wherever I go on the web can't discern any patterns or habits from me from using the same IP address.
Receiving a different IP address is how most dial-up connections function, so why should network cards be different? My concern for basic privacy is not an illegitimate action.
There is a script at the DD-WRT Wiki that allows modifying the router's MAC address every boot-up. Modifying the script for a Slackware box should be doable with a sed text string replacement in rc.inet1.
Slackware supports changing your card's MAC address easily via an entry in rc.inet1.conf, see my earlier post in this same thread.
Just because you find technology confusing and scary is no reason to try to take it out on other people.
Please attempt to cite a legitimate and constructive purpose for changing one's MAC address to a new one each boot so that we may properly ridicule your lack of knowledge. A bunch of poorly thought out and improperly constructed nonsense posing as (troll-style) arguments just isn't interesting enough to bother with.
Sorry for trolling, but:
With your point of view, you should be running Windows instead of Linux. Why should you be running Linux when Windows provides everything you want => there is no legitimate reason to use Linux.
My reason: I do it, because I can
And salmaklak and woodsman already posted more serious reasons why.
BTW, which technologies did I find confusing and scary?
Last edited by Alien_Hominid; 11-04-2007 at 06:03 AM..
With your point of view, you should be running Windows instead of Linux. Why should you be running Linux when Windows provides everything you want => there is no legitimate reason to use Linux.
My reason: I do it, because I can
And salmaklak and woodsman already posted more serious reasons why.
BTW, which technologies did I find confusing and scary?
Yes, salmaklak and woodsman had reasonable answers. You didn't.
Thanks for making it obvious you were just trolling.
Additionally, salmaklak (like most of the other posts in this thread) is talking about an entirely different situation. Woodsman, I'm reasonably sure, is talking about having his router come up with a new MAC address on the wired segment (and this would be a useful technical measure), but is still materially different from what was being posed.
The fact that you can't tell the difference should shame you and everyone else in this forum who tolerates this sort of bullshit.
That the OP hasn't bothered to come back to say anything about it is a pretty good sign that he's doing exactly as I suspected. Personally, I could care less what he does, but I do feel that public forums are not the proper place to be asking for how to hide your tracks. If someone wants to do something illicit, they should be smart enough to figure it out themselves or stick with following the rules. Breaking the rules is for smart people who know the difference between legality and ethics--stupid people just steal and break things.
Last edited by evilDagmar; 11-05-2007 at 03:22 AM..
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everyone else in this forum who tolerates this sort of bullshit.
What about this sort of bullshit? :
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themselves or stick with following the rules. Breaking the rules is for smart people who know the difference between legality and ethics--stupid people just steal and break things.
Who will decide who is smart and who isn't ? It is your personal opinion that something like this shouldn't be told the public. Thats fine, but lines like :
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The fact that you can't tell the difference should shame you
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Just because you find technology confusing and scary is no reason to try to take it out
on other people.
are totally unncessary and unneeded not to mention demeaning . If you had just said what was your point without stating such bull crap, I would have agreed with you. But you have just belittled your own post with unnecessary shouts at other people
And can some MOD for god's sake shut this thread up, clean it or something. Alien_Bob has already replied to this topic and given a correct solution, people are unable to see it because of this junk (as happened with Woodsman earlier I guess).
Last edited by duryodhan; 11-05-2007 at 04:02 AM..
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