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Distribution: Slackware 13.0, Ubuntu 9.10, Windows XP Pro SP3
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can't get 32 bit version would 64 bit do?
hello.
I've been struggling to get the latest distro of Slackware. Slackware 13.
It seems like my torrent application 'can't find the path specified.'
What's funny is that, I've been trying so hard, that I have Slackware 12.2 and Slackware x64.
Should I try harder to get Slackware 32 bit or just get with it on the 64 bit? Or should I go old skool and use my 12.2? And yeah, I done them in DVD. So its 7 GB of Slackware I am not sure I can use.
Processor? Core 2 Duo CPU 8100
Ram? 2 GB I'd only consider 64 if I had 4 GB of ram.
If anyone does have a link to the 32 bit one and it works, please offer it to me. I would totally appreciate it because I've been dying to get back on the Slackware bandwagon, I thought I'd use Ubuntu as my safe haven while Windows XP gets lost in its unstable boredom but Ubuntu did me wrong. Or I've just wanted more. I mean everything was just too easy, I had a system running in 30 minutes so I spent my other spare time customizing it to look different. You can't change the login screen anymore either. I've tried the HTTP stuff... errrr a lot. I just end up with a bunch of hung downloads in firefox. One completed but was corrupted. So yeah, if anyone does have one that works please do.
P.S. Not willing to look into a different Distro. Debian is cocky, Gentoo I am not that crazy, Arch Linux, too new IMHO. Slackware, just right. besides I figured how to do all the stuff in it and they wont change it unlike some distros (looking at Ubuntu Karmic Koala).
...Ram? 2 GB I'd only consider 64 if I had 4 GB of ram...
I was following along nicely until this line threw me off, and even though I read the remainder of your post, my brain cells had overreacted so much to that statement that I had to stop performing the neurosurgery I was in the middle of.
I don't understand how amount of ram makes any difference, ie, why would a 32bit os be any better with 2gb ram, vs a 64bit os?
I can't speak to why you're having difficulty with the torrents. I just tried them myself; they *appear* to be fine.
You mentioned that you had tried the HTTP stuff, but have you tried ftp? resume-able, etc....
While it was true a few years ago that 32-bit was more robust with more available packages, I'm not sure if that's true anymore, except maybe for Flash and some other proprietary formats and drivers. It may still be true that 64-bit has little advantage over 32 unless you have more than 4G of RAM, work with huge files, want to virtualize 64-bit OS's, and maybe some other things I don't know about.
I would use 64-bit unless you have a reason to use 32-bit. I don't see any reason to stick with 32-bit, other than compatibility, but you can install the multilib libs and then you can run 32-bit ones too.
Distribution: Slackware 13.0, Ubuntu 9.10, Windows XP Pro SP3
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Originally Posted by mrclisdue
I was following along nicely until this line threw me off, and even though I read the remainder of your post, my brain cells had overreacted so much to that statement that I had to stop performing the neurosurgery I was in the middle of.
I don't understand how amount of ram makes any difference, ie, why would a 32bit os be any better with 2gb ram, vs a 64bit os?
I can't speak to why you're having difficulty with the torrents. I just tried them myself; they *appear* to be fine.
You mentioned that you had tried the HTTP stuff, but have you tried ftp? resume-able, etc....
cheers,
oh yeah, FTP too 34 kbps.. somewhere along the lines I got some random error message that I didnt bother to note down because well I wasn't desperately frustrated with Windows XP's stupidity (yes, I know putting the blame on the OS is bad but feels good).
Well, as he just said below, 64-bit handles over 3gb of ram, it's just the worries of compatibility, if say a driver for my hardware was only available in 32 bit.
32 bit is not greater by any means, it's just 64 bit is uncharted waters for me. Atleast, before getting great news from this thread that compatibility has turned into a lost reason to use 32 bit, I only would dare to go 64 bit if I wound up with over 3 GB of RAM, then I would sorely be tempted to have the other GBs of RAM recognized so I could open over 500 firefox browsers and 67 VLC media players and claim that I am the holder of some fantasy sword and laugh at whoever is around me at that time struggling with 13 tabs on XP.
Back to the topic. So by all means, you would definetly suggest to go 64 bit? considering my processor as well? Is it all good to go? Forget 32 bit and be a 21st century citizen? My worries are just compatibility, nothing else. My Windows XP is 32 bit. Windows 7 Sucked. Windows Vista made me realize that a computer could be more useless while turned on.
About propietary software issues... there are workarounds right? I did not try searching. Popped two seconds later after reading through the posts..
Last edited by mongoosecage; 03-09-2010 at 03:31 AM.
Reason: another question.
I don't understand how amount of ram makes any difference, ie, why would a 32bit os be any better with 2gb ram, vs a 64bit os?
64bit systems use 8 byte pointers instead of 4 which will increase the amount of memory required to run programs and for programs to store their data. The more pointers used, the larger the effect will be. I suspect anything that uses large linked-lists (especially doubly, or multiply linked ones) will be hit pretty hard.
Having said that, your list would have to be pretty big indeed for this to become a problem on a 2GB system which would have enough room for over 200,000,000 pointers, but a 32bit system would allow for twice that number in the same memory space.
It's your choice, but so far I don't see any reason to stick to 32-bit unless you have compatibility problems (but if you have to run wine, you can use the multilib libs and it will work fine)
What kinda proprietary programs do you run ? If they use wine, they'll work. Heck, even if they don't, they'll probably work too, with the multilib.
Last edited by H_TeXMeX_H; 03-09-2010 at 06:44 AM.
Distribution: x86_64 Slack 13.37 current : +others
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I never gave much thought to whether 64 or 32 ... the natural progression is to 64 bits...so I have a load of 32 bit systems on other boxes that are getting neglected...I have two 64 bit Slack 13's on my main box one XP pro and one 64 bit XP plus 64 bit Mepis and Sabayon... 64 bits is the future ...
In the beginning there was free range...then came men with wire. M$
Last edited by hughetorrance; 03-09-2010 at 07:16 AM.
Distribution: slackware64 13.37 and -current, Dragonfly BSD
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I had the same reservations about upgrading to 64 bit - look here for the details. I have been running Slackware64 for about two months now with now problems at all. I'm glad I made the switch.
Distribution: Slackware 13.0, Ubuntu 9.10, Windows XP Pro SP3
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I think my Windows XP is messed up. I am getting the same torrent. Gahh.. I think this is the time to switch. Maybe add ram along the way. Wish I had 8 slots.
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