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Old 02-02-2010, 03:14 PM   #1
WiseDraco
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Best way to up-to-date slackware and install third party software?


Hello!
want to know what is the best way to update system, install soft like an openoffice and so?
swaret?
slapt-get?
another one?
thanks.
 
Old 02-02-2010, 03:18 PM   #2
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IMO Best to use slackpkg for keeping up to date with patches etc and upgrades (comes with slackware) and read the changelog too.

Get on the slackware security mailing list.

And for 3rd party software use slackbuilds.org and when you have learned what a build script is and does, progress to sbopkg from sbopkg.org
 
Old 02-02-2010, 06:09 PM   #3
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What he said.
 
Old 02-02-2010, 07:37 PM   #4
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I like slapt-get & slackbuilds.org combo more. Unfortunately slackpkg has some flaws like inability to select exact package version to download (not install) or miss some features like listing of available packages. I did wrote patches and extensions some time ago but devs weren't interested in them.
 
Old 02-02-2010, 08:13 PM   #5
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Slackpkg is supported by Slackware; slapt-get is not. Slackpkg for me thank you.
 
Old 02-03-2010, 12:50 AM   #6
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Cool

slackpkg is ok to update system, i agree, but all another...
for a example i try to install rxvt terminal emulator ( it is in slackware 13.0 and slackware current too
like a slackpkg install rx
slackpkg install rxvt - it reported "package with that name not found!"
bullshit....

btw, looking over 13.0 version at all, in compare with earlier versions - 12.2, and so on - i say, a 13.0 is more "experimental / testing" imho.
new kde, for example, is not a stable, working thing - it is like a experimental beta-toy...:\
hope, a 13.1 will be better...
 
Old 02-03-2010, 01:24 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WiseDraco View Post
slackpkg install rxvt - it reported "package with that name not found!"
WiseDraco, do you have rxvt installed already? If so slackpkg will refuse to install it...

Code:
Looking for rxvt in package list. Please wait... DONE

No packages match the pattern for install. Try:

        /usr/sbin/slackpkg reinstall|upgrade
However if you reinstall or upgrade it works perfectly. In fact you can 'slackpkg remove rxvt' then install, and it WILL work (just tested it).
 
Old 02-03-2010, 02:17 AM   #8
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or use the search function

Code:
/usr/sbin/slackpkg search rxvt

Looking for rxvt in package list. Please wait... DONE

The list below shows all packages with name matching "rxvt".

[ installed ] - rxvt-2.7.10-x86_64-4

You can search specific files using "slackpkg file-search file".
 
Old 02-03-2010, 06:07 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by mRgOBLIN View Post
or use the search function

Code:
/usr/sbin/slackpkg search rxvt

Looking for rxvt in package list. Please wait... DONE

The list below shows all packages with name matching "rxvt".

[ installed ] - rxvt-2.7.10-x86_64-4

You can search specific files using "slackpkg file-search file".

ok thanks for explain and advice. but anyway, slackpkg not install an software like as openoffice and so need for home/office desktop. a long time ago ( approx 10 - 11 version of slack, if remember corretly), i use a swaret for all this purposes, including a slack update,and almostly all be ok. in that times swaret package be present in officil slackware installation disc, but later swaret package be removed form slackware distro install discs....
 
Old 02-03-2010, 06:27 AM   #10
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As Dive mentioned.

http://slackbuilds.org and sbopkg
 
Old 02-03-2010, 06:38 AM   #11
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So, hey WiseDraco

I have a few slack 13/13ish setups going on
I wanted to test how slack would run if I added many pkg's from many repo's
obviously being careful

So, I installed Official 13, and then SalixOS, and Absolute 13.0.8
see here

salix
http://www.salixos.org/wiki/index.php/Home

repo
http://download.salixos.org/

absolute
http://www.absolutelinux.org/

and both SalixOS and Absolute are 13 based.

Anyway, on my reg slack install I grabbed sbopkg, src2pkg, gslapt, and slackpack
just to see whats what
I also included every repo I could find to add to gslapt

heres my /etc/slapt-getrc
Code:
WORKINGDIR=/var/slapt-get
EXCLUDE=^aaa_elflibs,^devs,^glibc-.*,^udev,.*-[0-9]+dl$,x86_64
SOURCE=ftp://ftp.absolutelinux.org/absolute-current/
SOURCE=ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/absolute/absolute-current/
#DISABLED=http://salix.enialis.net/i486/slackware-13.0/
#DISABLED=http://salix.enialis.net/i486/slackware-13.0/extra/
#DISABLED=http://salix.enialis.net/i486/13.0/
SOURCE=http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/:OFFICIAL
#DISABLED=http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/slackware/addon/slacky/slackware-13.0/:CUSTOM
#DISABLED=ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/extra/:PREFERRED
#DISABLED=ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/testing/:PREFERRED
#DISABLED=ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/pasture/:CUSTOM
#DISABLED=http://software.jaos.org/slackpacks/13.0/
#DISABLED=http://linvo.org/repository/linvo-2009.1/
#DISABLED=http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/
so, I have already added and subtracted many things from my test slack install
I haven't broken anything yet...

With all of my slackish installs I quickly got rid of XDM (salix) and GDM (absolute), replacing them with Slim from the Salix repo(comes with many themes)
and then setup Slim to run XFCE4(salix) and Icewm(absolute).

Slim is awesome and runs at much lower ram/cpu usage than either xdm or gdm
and Slim allows autologin for user and root, xdm/gdm cant do that.

With Salix I added Slackpkg, a bunch of apps from absolute and slacky repos
then I rebooted into runlevel 3, did slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all
and after upgrading everything it could I rebooted and everythings Groovy
no problems dude

With my testbed pure slack install I added all kinds of stuff, then I compiled the source kernel as the hugesmp.s kernel doesn't have (MK7) checked, so I thought I should compile the kernel for my CPU.
It worked flawlessly since, runs at about 20mb less ram with firefox running
and the cpu usage has gone down a bit too.

As I write this I am compiling a kernel for my Absolute 13.0.8 setup
I went and got the 2.6.32.7 kernel source from here
http://www.kernel.org/
absolute runs on 2.6.32.7 kernel (hell yeah)

its been twirling along for about 2 hours now
I think the pure slack 2.6.29.6 kernel took about an hour and half or so...

Absolute comes with OpenOffice and more

SalixOS even has a Livecd thats installable too
http://www.salixos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=355

so, have fun with it
 
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:07 AM   #12
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ok thanks for explain and advice. but anyway, slackpkg not install an software like as openoffice
No, but sbopkg does.
 
Old 02-03-2010, 08:54 AM   #13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WiseDraco View Post
Hello!
want to know what is the best way to update system, install soft like an openoffice and so?
Rob Workman has Slackware 13 packages for Open Office:
for 32bit Slack 13:
http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/13.0/i486/
and for 64bit Slack 13:
http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/13.0/x86_64/
Or you can use the slackbuilds from slackbuilds.org as others have said.
The developers from SalixOS claim 100% compatibility with Slackware:
http://www.salixos.org/wiki/index.php/Home
Quote:
Salix is a linux distribution based on Slackware that is simple, fast and easy to use. Salix is also fully backwards compatible with Slackware, so Slackware users can benefit from Salix repositories, which they can use as an "extra" quality source of software for their favorite distribution.
http://download.salixos.org/
I have not tested their packages with Slackware.
Most of the Salix developers are longtime Slackers who are former Zenwalk developers. I used their stuff on Zenwalk since Zenwalk 4.0, so I am confident that they know what they are doing.

Last edited by tommcd; 02-03-2010 at 09:01 AM.
 
Old 02-03-2010, 09:28 AM   #14
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Another hearty endorsement for:

Keeping up with the changelogs and using slackpkg.
SlackBuilds & sbopkg.
AlienBob and Robby Workman's repositories.
Sourcecode and src2pkg if needed.

Meets my needs completely...your milage may vary.
 
Old 02-03-2010, 09:33 AM   #15
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Keeping up with the changelogs and using slackpkg.
SlackBuilds & sbopkg.
AlienBob and Robby Workman's repositories.
Sourcecode and src2pkg if needed.
.
That, is really all you should ever need.
I pretty much get everything I would ever need or want from slackbuilds.org. Their slackbuild scripts are rock solid and just work.

Last edited by tommcd; 02-03-2010 at 09:35 AM.
 
  


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