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WiseDraco 02-02-2010 03:14 PM

Best way to up-to-date slackware and install third party software?
 
Hello!
want to know what is the best way to update system, install soft like an openoffice and so?
swaret?
slapt-get?
another one?
thanks.

dive 02-02-2010 03:18 PM

IMO Best to use slackpkg for keeping up to date with patches etc and upgrades (comes with slackware) and read the changelog too.

Get on the slackware security mailing list.

And for 3rd party software use slackbuilds.org and when you have learned what a build script is and does, progress to sbopkg from sbopkg.org

hitest 02-02-2010 06:09 PM

What he said. :)

dunric 02-02-2010 07:37 PM

I like slapt-get & slackbuilds.org combo more. Unfortunately slackpkg has some flaws like inability to select exact package version to download (not install) or miss some features like listing of available packages. I did wrote patches and extensions some time ago but devs weren't interested in them.

hitest 02-02-2010 08:13 PM

Slackpkg is supported by Slackware; slapt-get is not. Slackpkg for me thank you.

WiseDraco 02-03-2010 12:50 AM

slackpkg is ok to update system, i agree, but all another...
for a example i try to install rxvt terminal emulator ( it is in slackware 13.0 and slackware current too
like a slackpkg install rx
slackpkg install rxvt - it reported "package with that name not found!"
bullshit....

btw, looking over 13.0 version at all, in compare with earlier versions - 12.2, and so on - i say, a 13.0 is more "experimental / testing" imho.
new kde, for example, is not a stable, working thing - it is like a experimental beta-toy...:\
hope, a 13.1 will be better...

chaosorama 02-03-2010 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiseDraco (Post 3850393)
slackpkg install rxvt - it reported "package with that name not found!"

WiseDraco, do you have rxvt installed already? If so slackpkg will refuse to install it...

Code:

Looking for rxvt in package list. Please wait... DONE

No packages match the pattern for install. Try:

        /usr/sbin/slackpkg reinstall|upgrade

However if you reinstall or upgrade it works perfectly. In fact you can 'slackpkg remove rxvt' then install, and it WILL work (just tested it).

mRgOBLIN 02-03-2010 02:17 AM

or use the search function

Code:

/usr/sbin/slackpkg search rxvt

Looking for rxvt in package list. Please wait... DONE

The list below shows all packages with name matching "rxvt".

[ installed ] - rxvt-2.7.10-x86_64-4

You can search specific files using "slackpkg file-search file".


WiseDraco 02-03-2010 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mRgOBLIN (Post 3850459)
or use the search function

Code:

/usr/sbin/slackpkg search rxvt

Looking for rxvt in package list. Please wait... DONE

The list below shows all packages with name matching "rxvt".

[ installed ] - rxvt-2.7.10-x86_64-4

You can search specific files using "slackpkg file-search file".



ok thanks for explain and advice. but anyway, slackpkg not install an software like as openoffice and so need for home/office desktop. a long time ago ( approx 10 - 11 version of slack, if remember corretly), i use a swaret for all this purposes, including a slack update,and almostly all be ok. in that times swaret package be present in officil slackware installation disc, but later swaret package be removed form slackware distro install discs....

mRgOBLIN 02-03-2010 06:27 AM

As Dive mentioned.

http://slackbuilds.org and sbopkg

linus72 02-03-2010 06:38 AM

So, hey WiseDraco

I have a few slack 13/13ish setups going on
I wanted to test how slack would run if I added many pkg's from many repo's
obviously being careful

So, I installed Official 13, and then SalixOS, and Absolute 13.0.8
see here

salix
http://www.salixos.org/wiki/index.php/Home

repo
http://download.salixos.org/

absolute
http://www.absolutelinux.org/

and both SalixOS and Absolute are 13 based.

Anyway, on my reg slack install I grabbed sbopkg, src2pkg, gslapt, and slackpack
just to see whats what
I also included every repo I could find to add to gslapt

heres my /etc/slapt-getrc
Code:

WORKINGDIR=/var/slapt-get
EXCLUDE=^aaa_elflibs,^devs,^glibc-.*,^udev,.*-[0-9]+dl$,x86_64
SOURCE=ftp://ftp.absolutelinux.org/absolute-current/
SOURCE=ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/absolute/absolute-current/
#DISABLED=http://salix.enialis.net/i486/slackware-13.0/
#DISABLED=http://salix.enialis.net/i486/slackware-13.0/extra/
#DISABLED=http://salix.enialis.net/i486/13.0/
SOURCE=http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/:OFFICIAL
#DISABLED=http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/slackware/addon/slacky/slackware-13.0/:CUSTOM
#DISABLED=ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/extra/:PREFERRED
#DISABLED=ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/testing/:PREFERRED
#DISABLED=ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/pasture/:CUSTOM
#DISABLED=http://software.jaos.org/slackpacks/13.0/
#DISABLED=http://linvo.org/repository/linvo-2009.1/
#DISABLED=http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/

so, I have already added and subtracted many things from my test slack install
I haven't broken anything yet...

With all of my slackish installs I quickly got rid of XDM (salix) and GDM (absolute), replacing them with Slim from the Salix repo(comes with many themes)
and then setup Slim to run XFCE4(salix) and Icewm(absolute).

Slim is awesome and runs at much lower ram/cpu usage than either xdm or gdm
and Slim allows autologin for user and root, xdm/gdm cant do that.

With Salix I added Slackpkg, a bunch of apps from absolute and slacky repos
then I rebooted into runlevel 3, did slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all
and after upgrading everything it could I rebooted and everythings Groovy
no problems dude

With my testbed pure slack install I added all kinds of stuff, then I compiled the source kernel as the hugesmp.s kernel doesn't have (MK7) checked, so I thought I should compile the kernel for my CPU.
It worked flawlessly since, runs at about 20mb less ram with firefox running
and the cpu usage has gone down a bit too.

As I write this I am compiling a kernel for my Absolute 13.0.8 setup
I went and got the 2.6.32.7 kernel source from here
http://www.kernel.org/
absolute runs on 2.6.32.7 kernel (hell yeah)

its been twirling along for about 2 hours now
I think the pure slack 2.6.29.6 kernel took about an hour and half or so...

Absolute comes with OpenOffice and more

SalixOS even has a Livecd thats installable too
http://www.salixos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=355

so, have fun with it:)

dive 02-03-2010 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiseDraco (Post 3850662)
ok thanks for explain and advice. but anyway, slackpkg not install an software like as openoffice

No, but sbopkg does.

tommcd 02-03-2010 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiseDraco (Post 3849965)
Hello!
want to know what is the best way to update system, install soft like an openoffice and so?

Rob Workman has Slackware 13 packages for Open Office:
for 32bit Slack 13:
http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/13.0/i486/
and for 64bit Slack 13:
http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/13.0/x86_64/
Or you can use the slackbuilds from slackbuilds.org as others have said.
The developers from SalixOS claim 100% compatibility with Slackware:
http://www.salixos.org/wiki/index.php/Home
Quote:

Salix is a linux distribution based on Slackware that is simple, fast and easy to use. Salix is also fully backwards compatible with Slackware, so Slackware users can benefit from Salix repositories, which they can use as an "extra" quality source of software for their favorite distribution.
http://download.salixos.org/
I have not tested their packages with Slackware.
Most of the Salix developers are longtime Slackers who are former Zenwalk developers. I used their stuff on Zenwalk since Zenwalk 4.0, so I am confident that they know what they are doing.

zbreaker 02-03-2010 09:28 AM

Another hearty endorsement for:

Keeping up with the changelogs and using slackpkg.
SlackBuilds & sbopkg.
AlienBob and Robby Workman's repositories.
Sourcecode and src2pkg if needed.

Meets my needs completely...your milage may vary.

tommcd 02-03-2010 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbreaker (Post 3850865)
Keeping up with the changelogs and using slackpkg.
SlackBuilds & sbopkg.
AlienBob and Robby Workman's repositories.
Sourcecode and src2pkg if needed.
.

That, is really all you should ever need.
I pretty much get everything I would ever need or want from slackbuilds.org. Their slackbuild scripts are rock solid and just work.


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