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Old 06-11-2013, 11:15 AM   #121
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He first proposed the idea, so I don't see how you can say that he doesn't want to do it unless you know him personally.
but I haven't said that, please read again what I've posted.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 12:37 PM   #122
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probably if there were no stable branches, Greg would have more time for skating, snowboarding and to stay with the family so, personally (and considering also your thoughts, GazL), I hope there will be less LTS kernels in the future...
So, basically you are implying that GKH:

1) does not have enough time to do skating, snowboarding and being with the family (rather specific things, so I was assuming you know him)
2) would rather be skating, snowboarding and being with the family than working on the LTS kernel (would also require knowing him)

You either know him, or you made this up. That's basically what I'm saying.

Personally, I hope he does exactly what he wants to do, and has no pressure from me or anyone to do or not to do what he wants.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 12:55 PM   #123
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@H_TeXMeX_H: Even if he is only assuming, it isn't an unreasonable assumption IMHO, particularly spending more time with the family (most people will tell you that they would prefer do this). No need to get all hot and bothered about ponce's comment. It is just that, a comment.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 12:57 PM   #124
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No problems here with the latest AMD beta driver (13.6) and custom kernel-3.9.4

Did you have to patch it or did it work out of the box? Haven't tried the Beta yet.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 01:02 PM   #125
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Did you have to patch it or did it work out of the box? Haven't tried the Beta yet.
Out of the box. But --buildpkg failed so I installed it straight away using the --force
 
Old 06-11-2013, 01:04 PM   #126
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@H_TeXMeX_H: Even if he is only assuming, it isn't an unreasonable assumption IMHO, particularly spending more time with the family (most people will tell you that they would prefer do this). No need to get all hot and bothered about ponce's comment. It is just that, a comment.
Alright, but the comment bothered me, because I feel it detracts from the value of GKH's work, even tho it may have been said with good intentions.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 01:04 PM   #127
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So, basically you are implying that GKH:

1) does not have enough time to do skating, snowboarding and being with the family (rather specific things, so I was assuming you know him)
2) would rather be skating, snowboarding and being with the family than working on the LTS kernel (would also require knowing him)
not at all.
I've not implied anything of that, you are reading between the lines something I've never written or thought of and you are putting words in my mouth that I never told: please stop.
BTW, you can read about him here.
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Personally, I hope he does exactly what he wants to do, and has no pressure from me or anyone to do or not to do what he wants.
I'm hoping too that he will do what he wants to do.

actually I don't think I can pressure anyone to skate, snowboard or stay with his family, lol

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Alright, but the comment bothered me, because I feel it detracts from the value of GKH's work
(beside the fact that I appreciate *A LOT* Greg's work -and also his musical tastes, BTW) sorry, but I really can't see how.

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Old 06-11-2013, 01:30 PM   #128
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Out of the box. But --buildpkg failed so I installed it straight away using the --force
Thanks, will give that a try. Nonetheless this card will be replaced ASAP.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 06:46 PM   #129
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BTW, you can read about him here.
Interesting comment on Greg's google+ page on the latest release announcement:
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More stable kernel releases for you to play with:
3.0.82
3.4.49
3.9.6
something for everyone. Except you smart people, you all are running Linus's development tree, right? I thought so...
I'm not really sure how to take that as the result from my sarcasm detector is coming back as 'inconclusive'. It's been a common trend in Greg's public postings over the years that he finds the long-tail of kernels that remain in-use frustrating and he often encourages people to move to the more recent versions in his release announcements. Is he really suggesting that running from Linus' tree is the "smart" choice? The Release Candidates (especially the early ones) would to me seem to be far too risky and if you only track linus' official releases that means you're going 3 months at a time without security updates and other fixes (unless you identify and back-port them yourself). Or perhaps he's just saying that dumb people like me should be using the stable kernel. Unfortunately, I'm too dumb to figure out what he is saying.
 
Old 06-14-2013, 12:02 AM   #130
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I think that it's a reshare of a Linux page gplus post: for what I understood those seem to be written by Linus himself, and seems he just likes to do smartass/funny announces

about security updates, I'm following -rcs since a while because I'm interested in the new namespaces features, and for what I have noticed on git, most of the fixes pushed in Greg's stable tree went also (sometimes before, sometimes after, but seemed to me a matter of days) in Linus' main one.

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Old 06-14-2013, 04:15 AM   #131
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I think that it's a reshare of a Linux page gplus post: for what I understood those seem to be written by Linus himself, and seems he just likes to do smartass/funny announces
If that's the case, he also likes to refer to himself (or at least his git tree) in the 3rd person: "linus's tree", which is a little weird.

I'm not on g+ so I don't really know how these sort of pages work. Could the 'Linux' feed/page/userid (whatever it's called) possibly be shared between them?

... but on reflection I think you may be right. It does seem more his style.

Last edited by GazL; 06-14-2013 at 04:41 AM. Reason: Couple of typos and readded initial comment that ponce quoted.
 
Old 06-14-2013, 04:28 AM   #132
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I'm not on g+ so I don't really know how these sort of pages work. Could the 'Linux' feed/page/userid (whatever it's called) possibly be shared between them?
Yes, it could be also, gplus pages can have multiple admins, maybe also some others besides Linus and Greg, really dunno for sure the author of that post: it just seemed to me a little weird too that Greg himself was resharing something he had written.
 
Old 06-14-2013, 07:40 AM   #133
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Alright, but the comment bothered me, because I feel it detracts from the value of GKH's work, even tho it may have been said with good intentions.
I don't know, mate. I did not see anything negative in ponce's comment(it seems benign to me).
 
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:02 AM   #134
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I currently need four external kernel modules:
  • r8168.ko 8.036 and r8169.ko 6.017 from Realtek for their GbE NICs (in-kernel drivers are slow/broken since years and upstream doesn't care)
  • nvidia.ko for GPU support
  • vmmon for VMware Player

I made them work with Linux 3.8.13, but didn't try out 3.9 yet. Is the effort worth it or should I wait until -current moves to 3.10?
 
Old 06-21-2013, 05:00 AM   #135
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I don't think -Current will move to 3.10 for Slackware 14.1
 
  


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