just wondering.. . .

with 3.7.x and xorg the xv video extentions did not work. (they worked with the dri radeon driver but not fglrx 3.7.x)

is this fixed with 3.9.0??

BTW,

I'm back on slack. . .
Spent a little time on Gentoo, really liked it for some reasons, but I wanted to go back to a package based distro. . .
Then I gave SuSE 9.1, and while one of the easiest distros I have ever used, I was not happy with the RPM package management and things were kinda slow (compared to Gentoo and Slack) and it took up lots of my memory.

Now I am back to slack and after just a few hours of setting up the system (I have a complicated system) I am much happier then I was with SuSE and Gentoo.

I am running 10RC1 fresh from a nightly build of the -current tree (2004 06 16 - the official 10RC1 point.)

One good thing with 10RC1 is that is does not run the ftp server by defult like 9.1 did. . . I was running an ftp server for months without knowing about it back with 9.1

I use the new 3.9.0 driver from ATI, ile tell you its shits, the driver than comes with XOrg works alot better for 3D stuff.....but i use the 3.9.0 driver i haven't had any real issues apart from the 3D sucking...but i don't play games so 2D hardware accel..is good enough for me... I have a ATI Radeon 9200SE.



and btw Gentoo is a package based system also...just not binary packages.

So the 3.9.0 drivers work with xv on xorg?

yeah they work.

Sorry, I just have to be clear with this.

I know they work with xorg.

But the xv extention did not work with 3.7.6, it was a known bug.

The xv extention would be used for direct video rendering. . . used in Xine and Mplayer.

Without xv, you have to use a different display mode, and the rest just suck (some neat things you can do, like aalib and gl, but xv was the best for quality)

So, once again, before I go through the trouble of getting 3.9.0 working. . .

Has xv been fixed for the xorg server in the 3.9.0 release?

On my system, Everything works just peachy.

and I couldn't find the changelogs for past releases, but the current release notes, does not say anything...

Ugg...

Man if you don't know what you are talking about, then why even post a reply?

xv is still broken when using fglrx 3.9.0 with xorg's server.

Now I have to clean up the mess I made thinking it would work. . .

thanks a bunch.

Awesome.

I'm confused. alliscool - your posts (apparently) suggest that the fglrx 3.9.0 drivers *do* work with xv on xorg, but the title of your post is "it depends on the card". Additionally, you say the xorg driver works a lot better for 3D stuff but in the same sentence you also say that you haven't had any issues apart from "3D sucking". Dude -- which is it? -- J.W.

J.W. I was wrong, I was thinking of something completely different than what SlackMeUp was decribing, but I decided to go with the flow, it was wrong, I promise not to do this again. And please do not take my subjects in replies into any effect, I'm insane. And when I say I haven't had any problems, I am refering directly to the ATI driver, not the one included with xorg. And again, I am sorry for all the problems I have caused. I ask for the forgiveness of SlackMeUp and anyone else misled by my posts. I can only hope we can continue to function side by side on the Linux Questions Forum. Just to clean up any sharp edges left by my statements I offer a joke: What do you call cheese that isn't yours? NACHO CHEESE!

Hahha... funny joke.

I like. . . cheesy. . . jokes just like that one.


Anyway.

I'm not mad, just annoyed that I had to roll back to the radeon driver from fglrx. I mean, a simple I don't know, or no would have saved me the trouble of switching to fglrx and back again in the first place.

Glad you are giving these kinda answers on a help forum. The n00bies will have more beef with you then I ever will.

Next time, if you don't know, don't tell.

And telling us you are insane does not help. . . just makes us think you are childish.

I'll second SlackMeUp's comments -- if you have nothing constructive to contribute to a thread, then please refrain from posting a response. Along those lines, rather than to request that people ignore the titles of your posts, how about if you just used meaningful titles? You might want to think about re-reading the LQ rules http://www.linuxquestions.org/rules.php

I suspect you would be pretty irritated yourself if the tables were turned and someone had repeated THREE times that a particular problem that you were asking about could be solved in a certain way, and then after wasting hours of your time on a wild goose chase, you find out the poster "was thinking about something completely different". Sheesh, that's pretty lame. Apologies are nice but what would have been better would to have re-checked your advice.

I don't think there are any hard feelings, but in the future please think before you post. -- J.W.

After patching the 3.9 driver i'm able to compile the module, but after compiling, ./make_install.sh fails with the following output:

FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.7/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
failed.

I've seen other people having the same problem, and someone suggested that it could be permission-problems.. but i'm running as root!.. actually, i've tried, su, su -, and logging on as root with the same result..

any suggestions?

EDIT: solved it! Do not the compile the kernel with ati drm support, or at least, compile it as a module..