Nice idea. Unfortunately I cannot change the poll (or I just don`t know how )

I have always used KDE, probably always will. I can't deny that when KDE went to 4x there were serious problems. But I was able to work through them. I have, and still use other DE's. At the moment, XFCE is the only other one I use. But why is it that XFCE requires a double-click? Why is there not an option to single-click? Believe it or not, that's a show stopper for me and full time use of XFCE. I guess I'm just lazy.

If you open Thunar and go to Edit > Preferences > Behavior, then click on the radio button where is says, "Single click to activate item" and you have single-click action for your mouse.

It's always the first thing I do on a fresh Xfce install...even before installing SLiM.

And I have to agree that the early KDE 4 releases were rough around the edges. But isn't that the idea behind "release early and often" and "all bugs are shallow"? (I missed KDE 3.5.10 too, when the default went to version 4. I've only enabled akonadi, strigi etc., in 4.5.1 to see how they act. It will all come together some day. In the meantime I use 4.5.1 about a quarter of the time and Robby's Xfce 4.6.2 package the rest of the time.)

I agree with everything you said, but Okular does allow you to pick
particular pages to print. At least it does with all the .pdf files
I've opened and printed from.

True true true and true. However, KDE 4.4 in Slackware is very, very nice -- even on my old Pentium III and stellar on my Athalon 7750.

When I was running Slackware 13, I used Vincent Batts's KDE 4.3 packages instead of the stock 4.2 ones. Those were nice too.

Regards,

I'll agree vbatts' 4.3.1 packages were the first "decent" version of KDE 4, but, still, overall, 4 has a ways to go, or should I say, it is going in the wrong direction.

@ faster on older machines

Do these older machines need the updates to programs installed under 13.1?

Why do people expect Linux OSes or software to continue to support older hardware? It's like trying to install Windows XP on a machine designed for Windows 3.1.

I have a laptop designed for Windows 98 and it only has 256mb of ram. I wouldn't even expect to run KDE3 on that. Not to mention that Firefox has a really hard time with it as well.

No. I use kde4 though, be suspicious if I have to buy a video card-edge ...

When I started using slackware I used command line (since I really wanted to learn) then I moved up to blackbox. After using it for 3 years or so I moved up to KDE3, then KDE4. Of all those I say I have the biggest soft spot for KDE3. I really like the way you could tweak the hell out if it, I could make it look exactly windows XP or exactly like Mac OS X, and everything in between. In KDE4 its a battle just to change the font themes and even the ones that are available are incomplete. It's stability though (at least for me) is getting better with each release.

I use both KDE3 and KDE4 - and will stay with both. The former rather the Trinity Project the latter - hm - I hope KDE 4 developers will fix issues with kwin and start to think how to make KDE 4 more self-contained - in the way as KDE3 - and maybe (am I dreaming?) they create say 'lite' version of KDE4 ? For example Amarok is rather losely integrated with KDE4 - in contrary to Amarok in KDE3 - but really what I miss is noautn - it badly crashes but is nicely integrated with the desktop and arts. Say long live for KDE3. It is always good to have a choice. Generally I think that popularity of KDE4 also comes from GPL for qt4 library. It is very similar like XFree86 and Xorg. XFree86 is better than Xorg but has no support due to a licenses issues.

I've been using KDE for as long as I've been using Linux (7 yrs). I like it, switched to KDE4, and haven't looked back. No regrets.

More arguments for KDE3: in my two-display configuration with awesome as the window manager Konqueror from KD3 is a winner. It is due to its feature of embedding many applications: document viewrs. media players - it doesn't open external windows - and this is really convenient and functional.

Not quite. KPDF allows me to choose all, current page and particular pages, be it 1,4,23

Ocular allows only all or page range 3-7 (not ie. 3, 4, 6)

Why do people expect I have to upgrade my hardware every six months with new release of my distro? Unless they`re from hardware store...


I remember running KDE3 on 64MB RAM and it worked. Actually the old computers I mentioned have 380MB RAM and work perfect.

Not to mention Firefox is just a resource hungry hog. Lightweight Midori or Arora can do 99% of its job (which is: displaying websites) without consuming so much CPU and RAM.

C`mon guys, have you ever imagined how much data (ie. chars) could fit into 1GB RAM? 1char=1byte, that gives 1024x1024x1024 chars ca. 1`000`000`000 chars. Let`s assume one manually types a char per second. It gives 32 years of constant typing day and night. Why our computers have to move this data to and fro when several years ago they could work with 64KB (Commodore 64)?

I do understand capacity of hardisks has to grow as we store larger and larger files. I can understand RAM needs to grow too. But why executables went into hundreds of MB? What is inside them? Several years ago whole operating system could fit into several KB. What happened except manufacturers of hardware in league with coders want us to buy a new machine every year?

This issue bites me, it makes me scream. I have to start another thread about it.

I never liked KDE3. Used it on Slack 10.2 - 11.0.
Since 12.1 came out I converted fully to XFCE.
But KDE4 is what's really for me. I have tried it since version 4.0 in other distros and converted fully since Slack 13.0 came out (KDE 4.2) :-)
The first real version was 4.3 though.

/me enjoys his eye-candy on the laptop %-)