LinuxQuestions.org
Help answer threads with 0 replies.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions > Slackware
User Name
Password
Slackware This Forum is for the discussion of Slackware Linux.

Notices

Reply
 
Search this Thread
Old 01-18-2011, 10:01 PM   #1
Daedra
Senior Member
 
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Springfield, MO
Distribution: Slackware64-14.1
Posts: 1,222

Rep: Reputation: 177Reputation: 177
Any Slackers using SSD's?


I've been wanting one these for a while but I am holding out for at least a small price drop. But I was wondering what those who are using them think? Given Slackware's nature I am guessing it smokes?
 
Click here to see the post LQ members have rated as the most helpful post in this thread.
Old 01-18-2011, 10:03 PM   #2
MS3FGX
Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: NJ, USA
Distribution: Slackware, Debian
Posts: 5,852

Rep: Reputation: 351Reputation: 351Reputation: 351Reputation: 351
I have been using SSD on my Slackware server for awhile, it is really an immense performance increase if used properly.
 
Old 01-18-2011, 10:07 PM   #3
Daedra
Senior Member
 
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Springfield, MO
Distribution: Slackware64-14.1
Posts: 1,222

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 177Reputation: 177
Just out of curiosity are you using Ext4 with journaling? I've been reading up on SSD's and pretty much got all the info I need, but there seems to be debate about the benefits (if any) of disabling journaling. Some say its faster without, others say there is no difference.

Last edited by Daedra; 01-20-2011 at 05:16 PM.
 
Old 01-18-2011, 10:44 PM   #4
MS3FGX
Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: NJ, USA
Distribution: Slackware, Debian
Posts: 5,852

Rep: Reputation: 351Reputation: 351Reputation: 351Reputation: 351
I don't use journaling, there is really no point. Journaling is in place to help recover from read/write errors, but since a SSD can't get bad sectors or any of the other ailments of traditional HDDs, it has little effect. An SSD will still go bad, but when it does it will be a catastrophic type of failure, and require the drive to be replaced immediately, at which point you just recover from backups. In other words, a journal is not going to help you when an SSD finally bites the dust. You could still have problems with a hard shutdown, but nothing fsck can't fix if it ever happens.

The drive is also mounted with noatime and nodiratime options, which greatly reduce filesystem overhead. In actuality, these two options will save you more repeated writes and general overhead than disabling journaling anyway.
 
3 members found this post helpful.
Old 01-19-2011, 10:23 AM   #5
trademark91
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2009
Distribution: Slackware -current x64
Posts: 372

Rep: Reputation: 72
Ive been using a seagate hybrid hard drive since my old one crashed, i notice a much faster boot time now.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 10:41 AM   #6
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Midwest USA, Central Illinois
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 11,197
Blog Entries: 3

Rep: Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425
Hi,

I purchased a Intel X25-V SATA SSD G2 40GB back in Dec/10. Put it into my laptop. Love it! Look at Intel solid state drives SSDs or Get more details about Intel SSDs;
Quote:
Intel Solid-State Drives (SSDs) have no moving parts, high reliability and longer life-span than traditional hard drives.
I'm rather tired of hearing people misstate about R/W for a SSD. Get some facts from the above links, it is all there.

Overall system performance gains, low heat (I still use a laptop cooler) and I can tell the differences..

Prices for SSD are falling and I'll purchase another but with higher capacity.

I use external drives for intermediate storage since they are cheap and higher capacity. You can really tell the difference when read/write therefore a noticeable performance gain.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 11:19 AM   #7
rmjohnso
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Distribution: Slackware64-Current
Posts: 294

Rep: Reputation: 43
For those of you using an SSD, what file systems do you use?
 
Old 01-19-2011, 01:36 PM   #8
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Midwest USA, Central Illinois
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 11,197
Blog Entries: 3

Rep: Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425Reputation: 1425
Hi,

Get it from the horses mouth: View Competitive Performance Analysis

The above is for Intel.

 
Old 01-19-2011, 06:07 PM   #9
manwichmakesameal
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2006
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 800

Rep: Reputation: 100Reputation: 100
@ rmjohnso: I'm using ext4. I have an OCZ Vertex 30G in my laptop and it's pretty amazing.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 07:47 PM   #10
slkrover
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2010
Distribution: Slackware 14.1
Posts: 68

Rep: Reputation: 16
I have a mushkin 60G Callisto deluxe in my 64b desktop with ext4. I was using a wd raptor before and didn't notice much difference. They really start to shine when running 2-3 in raid-0 but Linux still puts some stuff on only one drive till the kernel is loaded I think. I think in a laptop it would be a bigger difference.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 09:49 PM   #11
the3dfxdude
Member
 
Registered: May 2007
Posts: 316

Rep: Reputation: 88
ext4 with journaling here. When you get a drive, you should get a quality drive that should work for a long time regardless the filesystem. Of course, you should learn a bit about how SSDs work, and pick the right filesystem options for your applications.
 
Old 01-20-2011, 04:19 PM   #12
BroX
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Sweden
Distribution: Slackware64-current
Posts: 745

Rep: Reputation: 64
Journaling ext4 on a Intel 160GB X18-m G2 (SSDSA1M160G2LE)

Have also been reading up on the subject, and a lot of controversial reports. Now settled for mounting with options 'relatime' (default) and 'discard' to enable TRIM.

Any thoughts about the optimal scheduler? E.g. deadline or noop?

Can't compare performance with a HDD as the SSD came with a new laptop. But I'm pretty satisfied with

Code:
dev/sda:
 Timing buffered disk reads: 768 MB in  3.00 seconds = 255.92 MB/sec
:-)
 
Old 01-20-2011, 04:42 PM   #13
Daedra
Senior Member
 
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Springfield, MO
Distribution: Slackware64-14.1
Posts: 1,222

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 177Reputation: 177
This article was loaded with useful info
http://cptl.org/wp/index.php/2010/03...ives-in-linux/
 
Old 01-20-2011, 05:00 PM   #14
2handband
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Alexandria, Minnesota
Distribution: Slackware 13.1
Posts: 809

Rep: Reputation: 96
I wish I was, but they're still too damn spendy...
 
Old 01-20-2011, 06:28 PM   #15
lpallard
Member
 
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Milky Way
Distribution: Slackware (various releases)
Posts: 970

Rep: Reputation: 44
OCZ Vertex 40GB with reiserfs. Runs like a rocket on my htpc. Why reiserfs? Dont know, I have been using reiser since 2004 and did not even think about which fs I was gonna use on this ssd drive when I formatted it...

Quote:
it is really an immense performance increase if used properly.
What do you mean by "if used properly"? Is there some settings, tweaks or improvements to implement to get the max out of it?
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
So long Slackers... SlCKB0Y Slackware 67 07-18-2012 04:22 PM
Hello Slackers OldBikerPete LinuxQuestions.org Member Intro 0 09-06-2010 04:20 AM
SSD's a reasonable replacement for HDD on a desktop? drmjh Linux - Hardware 10 01-17-2010 05:25 PM
Lindows.... what do you slackers.. think about it Linux_Inside Slackware 33 12-20-2003 12:42 AM
Salute Slackers ArnaudVR Slackware 13 11-05-2003 01:02 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:46 PM.

Main Menu
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
identi.ca: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration