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Old 10-25-2012, 02:40 PM   #1
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another nice Slackware 14 review/article (German)


4 pages, good inforamtion

http://www.pro-linux.de/artikel/2/15...kware-140.html
 
Old 10-25-2012, 03:29 PM   #2
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Thanks for the link, an interesting article.

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Old 10-26-2012, 12:47 AM   #3
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I just read the entire article. It shows basically the same issues than the Distrowatch review. Here's a choice of a few pieces of information given by the article:
  • Java is not included in the distribution. No mention of the SlackBuild which makes installation rather easy.
  • GNOME is not included in the distribution, but can be installed easily using GSB. No mention that the GSB project is actually dead.
  • In the examples illustrated by screenshots, the author opts straight for an LVM install, since the traditional partitioning methods are "not flexible enough".
  • The author adds a user using useradd/groupadd and not adduser. Later in the text, he wonders why he can't play any mp3 files and discovers that the user must be part of a series of groups to use the desktop in a satisfying manner.
  • He tries to install LibreOffice by downloading an RPM and converting it with rpm2tgz, which leads (surprise) to an installation failure.
  • Apparently, Firefox can be "installed easier". I would say so, since he chose the [XAP] group and it is already installed.
  • The slapt-get package manager is mentioned like it was a part of the official release.
  • Apparently, patching packages is a breeze by using explodepkg and makepkg. I don't know how the author went about it exactly, but I would be very curious.

I think one can conclude safely that Slackware should only reviewed by folks who actually use the distribution, or at least have some basic clues. Of course, publicity is always nice, but I can't help thinking of what Sigmund Freud once wrote in his diary. "I don't have problems with my enemies. It's my friends that are causing me trouble."

Cheers,

Niki
 
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:23 AM   #4
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I think one can conclude safely that Slackware should only reviewed by folks who actually use the distribution, or at least have some basic clues. ...
Well, maybe. But I think the article is representative for a new Slackwareuser. Also I would conclude that other reviews about other distributions have similar issues.

All in all the article shows the philosophy behind Slackware quite clear.

BTW: I use Slackware for quite some years now and haven't yet knowledge of all features added within the last years. So I do many things by hand which could be done simpler. For example it took me some time to find out that slackpkg is available and once I began to use slackpkg.org I didn't know about sbopkg.
I think it takes some time until one knows all the shortcuts. Or maybe the experienced Linux-user has his/her own ways around the system anyway and is not interested in finding out about any special feature in a distribution.

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Old 10-26-2012, 06:46 AM   #5
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Well, maybe. But I think the article is representative for a new Slackwareuser. Also I would conclude that other reviews about other distributions have similar issues.
agree ,
but I also agree with what kikinovak has written.

@kikinovak
I just looked at the comments, and the mentioned points from you have not been added to the comments so far,
what is a bit sad cause usually good and competent comments will be respected at pro-linux.de and the article might/will become updated.
so if no one gives the article author a nice hint.. how should he know.

maybe I will translate your points and add them after work to the comments if you do not do it.

that Slackware should be reviewed by folks who actually use the distribution is a good idea from you, but there is maybe a problem: any volunteer available who does this?
 
Old 10-26-2012, 08:47 AM   #6
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I think one can conclude safely that Slackware should only reviewed by folks who actually use the distribution, or at least have some basic clues.
Niki
Agreed. Slack ought to be reviewed by someone familiar with it, so the sensible way of putting the distribution to use would be shown.

It don't matter if you're a seasoned Linux user or a newbie, if you're new to Slackware you better be shown and explained how things work and are done the best and most reasonable way.

This guy is probably an advanced user, more or less, but he doesn't know how to go about really simple stuff. This does not reflect the distro's true nature, so it's not particularly useful.

It's more like a struggle really... not a review.

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