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Old 06-07-2011, 02:17 AM   #1
Didier Spaier
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Alternatives for KDE's applications


Hello all,

If Slackware didn't include KDE:
1) Which KDE apps would you miss ?
2) Which alternatives for these apps would you suggest ?

PS. Proposing GNOME apps instead is considered bad practice, as there is no sign of GNOME being re-included in Slackware in a foreseeable future

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Old 06-07-2011, 02:39 AM   #2
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file-roller as an archive manager
geeqie and viewnior as image viewers
mtpaint as a simple image editor
quodlibet or clementine as a music library organiser
gaiksaurus as a thesaurus
evince as a PDF viewer
x-cd-roast as a CD burner
gparted as a partition manager
 
Old 06-07-2011, 02:51 AM   #3
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Personally, I think there's only one really outstanding KDE package that might be hard to replace, ie Dolphin.
Mind you, Thunar from XFCE 4.8 comes close to it so that would be my choice
 
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Old 06-07-2011, 03:17 AM   #4
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Hello all,

If Slackware didn't include KDE:
1) Which KDE apps would you miss ?
2) Which alternatives for these apps would you suggest ?
Dolphin - There really is not a replacement for this application and it's features. Thunar is missing tabs, multi/split-pannel, built in terminal, and on and on. Xfe offers multi/split-pannel but no tabs, no terminal, and a whole lot of other things. PCmanFM is not stable enough to be allowed to look at my files . There is a new release of rodent-file manager (Xffm) But I have not checked that out.

Gwenview - Another hard to replace app. Geeqie is nice, but it is more of an image organizer. I like Ristretto a little better as a viewer. But Gwenview offers both simple/easy editing for resizing, cropping and red eye removal, plus image organizing.

Okular - Best thing I like about Okular is that it can automatically load $.pdf.gz. Gzipping my PDFs save quite a bit of space. With other readers I'd need to un-gzip them. Though epdf reader is quite nice, and lighter.

Ktorrent - Transmission.

Koffice - Abiword, Gnumeric, dia, There are others (Inkscape), but they have some pretty heavy 3rd party dependencies.

K3B - There are many disc burning applications. Sadly none have as many features as K3B. Graveman, xfburn, brasero. Though personally, I use mkisofs and cdrecord/cdrdao from a term. My Girlfriend uses NeroLinux, and I have to admit I'm pretty impressed with the user interface and functionality

kaudiocreator - RubyRipper, asunder, or one of million other audio rippers.

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Old 06-07-2011, 03:50 AM   #5
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Dolphin Cont'd - No other file manager I've found will reliably let you browse smb shares. Thunar and PCManFM do, but trying to get them to work outside xfce is a pain, and they only seem to work on-and-off.

Okular again - epdfview, evince, adobe. I sometimes need something that will allow me to fill in forms and the lighter pdf viewers don't support this.

K3B - Probably xcdroast. xfburn has a pretty silly animation...

Kile - texworks is very good and is my main app, but kile does have more options.

I think they are the main applications I would miss.
 
Old 06-07-2011, 07:07 AM   #6
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there are only 4 programs left that i still use after my random decision to try to avoid all kde/gnome apps

Dolphin - i never particularly liked using thunar, and nautilus is right out of the question. ive heard about PCmanFM and that i need to try, but even when i am in a ligtweight system, such as openbox or fluxbox, i end up using dolphin for my filemanagement.

Ark - ark is the best archive software ive found, hands down. the only way i would stop using it would be if i decided to move away from Qt apps entirely, in which case, file roller wouldnt be an option because i wouldnt want to stop using Qt just to adopt GTK

K3B - kinda the same boat as ark on this one. there are alternatives, but none are as good.

KMyMoney - i use this on a daily basis, it is really the only way i manage my finances any more. dont think i could do without it and i certainly havent found any other software like it.



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on the other hand, here are some that i found suitable replacements for:

amarok - i replaced with mpd + sonata client. still does the same stuff (playlists and searching) but is WAY more lightweight, works with jack, and can remain playing music when i kill X

kmix - i replaced with volumeicon, does the same stuff, except when you select the mixer, it opens up alsamixer in a terminal, which i find to be a nice feature

ktorrent - i replaced with btpd, kinda the same reasons as the switch to mpd. more lightweight, keeps running when i kill X

kate - i replaced with emacs, which even has a graphical client for when im in X, which is awesome because it can truly be a do-everything text editor
 
Old 06-07-2011, 12:30 PM   #7
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Okular = Adobe Reader.

Gwenview or digiKam = Picasa. I like Gwenview, but recently installed Picasa and it beats Gwenview. No contest.

Amarok = VLC. I've never like Amarok for some reason and find VLC takes care of almost all of my multimedia needs.
Audacious is not bad if you want an audio, only, player.

KMail = Thunderbird or Opera Mail.

Kopete = Pidgin.

KOffice = Libreoffice. KOffice is of limited use and should have been dropped years ago.

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Old 06-07-2011, 02:05 PM   #8
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I think you are seeking a list of GTK and non KDE apps. GTK apps do not have any GNOME dependencies. Non KDE apps can be QT based but do not have any KDE dependencies.

We've had similar discussions in this forum before:

100% replacement of KDE4 with XFCE

Slackware/Xfce vs. Slackware/KDE

I haven't updated my list in a long time, but a quick glance shows the list remains fairly decent. I'll watch this thread and try to update my list accordingly.
 
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Old 06-07-2011, 02:17 PM   #9
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I think you are seeking a list of GTK and non KDE apps. GTK apps do not have any GNOME dependencies. Non KDE apps can be QT based but do not have any KDE dependencies.
I agree: I do consider acceptable that a replacement application be based on QT or GTK, as both are included in Slackware.
 
Old 06-07-2011, 03:15 PM   #10
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There are details in some applications that make alternatives unsuitable as replacements of their KDE equivalents. For example xarchiver is dead upstream and doesnt handle xz archives. There is a patch for xz available at SBo, but it only allows viewing the archives, not extracting or creating them. Inevitably file-roller is the only suitable replacement for ark. File-roller is actually better than ark, but its a GNOME application. Newest versions of it use dconf, gtk3 and can be optionally intergrated with nautilus.

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Old 06-07-2011, 04:24 PM   #11
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Well, I wouldn't miss ark, as tar and xz are easy enough to use. But I can understand that other people feel more comfortable using a front-end.

As a file manager I use Worker which can be used as a front end for compression programs as well and to look inside the archives with the help of AVFS.
 
Old 06-07-2011, 06:30 PM   #12
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Kontact
Dolphin
Okular

From a personal point of view, I don't see any viable replacement for the moment.
 
Old 06-07-2011, 07:11 PM   #13
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I think K3B will be the only app I will miss without KDE. Every other app can be replaced: xpdf, krusader/mc/thunar, vlc/audacious and so on...
 
Old 06-08-2011, 12:49 AM   #14
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Hello all,

If Slackware didn't include KDE:

2) Which alternatives for these apps would you suggest ?
I'll offer up just a couple here:

  • Xfburn
  • Thunar (Which in my install appears broken under KDE anyway).
 
Old 06-08-2011, 03:14 AM   #15
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Sorry for my dumb question, but isn't possible to run KDE applications without installing KDE? I mean KDE libs should be enough to run K3b, Okular? right?

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