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Holering 02-12-2014 08:28 PM

Absolute Linux (lightweight Slackware distro) source tree available?
 
Anyone know the slackbuilds location for absolute linux? Mainly interested in the checkinstall, pcmanfm, rox, and icewm slackbuilds. Thanks!

Regards

willysr 02-12-2014 08:42 PM

i think you are asking in the wrong place :)

Woodsman 02-12-2014 09:14 PM

Start looking here:

http://www.absolutelinux.org/

Alien Bob 02-13-2014 07:11 AM

As far as I know, Absolute Linux does not make its package sources available - which would mean that it is non-compliant with the software licenses.

Eric

Slax-Dude 02-13-2014 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 5116879)
As far as I know, Absolute Linux does not make its package sources available - which would mean that it is non-compliant with the software licenses.

Eric

Well they are available, as stated here (read last lines).

willysr 02-13-2014 11:53 AM

But the license stated that all modifications should be provided as well
the last statement
Quote:

(I've got it all somewhere :)
means that it's not public and you have to ask him to get it

Holering 02-13-2014 01:08 PM

www.pcbypaul.com is dormant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last lines of Absolute Linux Copyright.txt
if you want the source
code to something included in Absolute Linux simply email me at:
psherma1@rochester.rr.com.
(I've got it all somewhere :)

Looks like I have to email the author.

Thanks!

Slax-Dude 02-14-2014 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willysr (Post 5117050)
means that it's not public and you have to ask him to get it

It doesn't specify HOW it is made available.

If I make modifications to a GPL licensed code and make them available only by sending a paper hard copy to anyone who asks me, I'm still complying with the license.

Sure, it would be a bit dickish... but legal.

55020 02-14-2014 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slax-Dude (Post 5117612)
It doesn't specify HOW it is made available. If I make modifications to a GPL licensed code and make them available only by sending a paper hard copy to anyone who asks me, I'm still complying with the license. Sure, it would be a bit dickish... but legal.

Just Plain Wrong.

Read GPLv3 section 6 (emphasis added)
Quote:

You may convey a covered work in object code form under the terms of sections 4 and 5, provided that you also convey the machine-readable Corresponding Source under the terms of this License, in one of these ways:

a) Convey the object code in, or embodied in, a physical product (including a physical distribution medium), accompanied by the Corresponding Source fixed on a durable physical medium customarily used for software interchange.
b) Convey the object code in, or embodied in, a physical product (including a physical distribution medium), accompanied by a written offer, valid for at least three years and valid for as long as you offer spare parts or customer support for that product model, to give anyone who possesses the object code either (1) a copy of the Corresponding Source for all the software in the product that is covered by this License, on a durable physical medium customarily used for software interchange, for a price no more than your reasonable cost of physically performing this conveying of source, or (2) access to copy the Corresponding Source from a network server at no charge.
c) Convey individual copies of the object code with a copy of the written offer to provide the Corresponding Source. This alternative is allowed only occasionally and noncommercially, and only if you received the object code with such an offer, in accord with subsection 6b.
d) Convey the object code by offering access from a designated place (gratis or for a charge), and offer equivalent access to the Corresponding Source in the same way through the same place at no further charge. You need not require recipients to copy the Corresponding Source along with the object code. If the place to copy the object code is a network server, the Corresponding Source may be on a different server (operated by you or a third party) that supports equivalent copying facilities, provided you maintain clear directions next to the object code saying where to find the Corresponding Source. Regardless of what server hosts the Corresponding Source, you remain obligated to ensure that it is available for as long as needed to satisfy these requirements.
e) Convey the object code using peer-to-peer transmission, provided you inform other peers where the object code and Corresponding Source of the work are being offered to the general public at no charge under subsection 6d.
and GPLv2 section 3 (emphasis added)
Quote:

3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:

a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,
b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,
c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in object code or executable form with such an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.) [... snip ...]

If distribution of executable or object code is made by offering access to copy from a designated place, then offering equivalent access to copy the source code from the same place counts as distribution of the source code, even though third parties are not compelled to copy the source along with the object code.
IMO, Absolute should consider being much more careful to fulfil GPLv3 Section 6d (where GPLv3 is applicable), and/or GPLv2 Section 3's final paragraph (where GPLv2 is applicable). GPLv3 Section 6c (and/or GPLv2 Section 3c) cannot apply to modified or original material being distributed under GPLv3 (and/or GPLv2).

Being 'a bit dickish' with the GPL is *always* *very* dickish. Don't even think it.

Slax-Dude 02-14-2014 11:00 AM

Ok, bad example :(
Hehehe you got me with the "machine readable" part :)
But they don't specify which medium you have to use.
And "a medium customarily used for software interchange" can be anything from a git repo to a webserver.
I use email to "interchange software" all the time :)

GPLv3 section 6
Quote:

or (2) access to copy the Corresponding Source from a network server at no charge.
Absolute Linux supplies the source code through email at no charge, from an email server.

GPLv2 section 3
Quote:

b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange
They do have a written offer to give the source, through email.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 55020 (Post 5117662)
Being 'a bit dickish' with the GPL is *always* *very* dickish. Don't even think it.

Indeed!


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