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Old 09-25-2006, 07:07 PM   #16
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Why on EARTH would ANYONE use huge2.6? It is designed ONLY for people with extremely exotic PCs and only during installation. THe kernel is huge, and filled with every single thing built in. It would be incredibly slow and cpu intensive to use it.

Why not use the regular 2.6 kernel? There is no reason to use huge 2.6 except for during installation and only if the regular 2.4 or 2.6 kernel doesn't support your hardware.
 
Old 09-25-2006, 07:33 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by liquidtenmilion
Why on EARTH would ANYONE use huge2.6? It is designed ONLY for people with extremely exotic PCs and only during installation. THe kernel is huge, and filled with every single thing built in. It would be incredibly slow and cpu intensive to use it.
Ever noticed the size of a *BSD kernel? They make "huge26.s" look positively compact. Eg: OpenBSD 3.9's default kernel is 5.2 megs.

Personally, I doubt you'd notice any difference between a custom kernel and huge26.s performance-wise. I don't. And my hardware is 3 years old! The main advantage of running a custom kernel comes from not trying to load drivers for hardware which doesn't exist. Once the machine has booted, I can't tell which is running.

This is the first time in years that I've been mostly satisfied with a stock kernel. I think huge26.s is more "newb friendly" as well, because it has support for reiserfs, jfs, xfs and ext3 all built in. This could mean the end of those annoying "Kernel panic: no root filesystem" posts which come up every day in the Slackware forum.

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Old 09-25-2006, 11:04 PM   #18
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2.6 here....
 
Old 09-25-2006, 11:30 PM   #19
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I'm already using my custom compiled kernel of the latest versin in Slackware, so it's a moot point for me which kernel I'll be using.

The logical choice would be 2.6. It's now fairly mature and the additional features and hardware support in this kernel makes it worthwhile.

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Old 09-26-2006, 12:34 AM   #20
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2.6 "generic" here on several machines. PII 266, Celeron 768 and a Duron 1.2GHz. All very stable.
These all have >128MB ram and 2.6 feels a quite a bit faster than 2.4.
 
Old 09-26-2006, 09:33 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by liquidtenmilion
Why on EARTH would ANYONE use huge2.6? It is designed ONLY for people with extremely exotic PCs and only during installation. THe kernel is huge, and filled with every single thing built in. It would be incredibly slow and cpu intensive to use it.

Why not use the regular 2.6 kernel? There is no reason to use huge 2.6 except for during installation and only if the regular 2.4 or 2.6 kernel doesn't support your hardware.
Most stuff in the huge26 kernel is modules so you shouldn't see a noticeable slowdown (~3MB kernel size). your /lib/modules/ directory is probably a lot bigger though.
 
Old 09-26-2006, 09:48 AM   #22
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I think I would most likely have to use the 2.6 kernels because of my new notebook I got a few weeks back. Aside from 2.6 I would still have to recompile it for SMP suppport since it is a dual core AMD (everything now is dual core, even though there is not much of it being used yet), add himem support, since I have 2GB of ram (yes thats right, 2GB, so should I not even bother with a swap partition? Since swap only goes up to 2GB, I guess it would be useless to have a 4GB swap), and last but not least, support for my internal wireless adapter.
 
Old 09-26-2006, 06:04 PM   #23
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Aside from 2.6 I would still have to recompile it for SMP suppport since it is a dual core AMD (everything now is dual core, even though there is not much of it being used yet), add himem support, since I have 2GB of ram (yes thats right, 2GB, so should I not even bother with a swap partition?
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Originally Posted by changelog
[...]
Sat Sep 16 23:08:49 CDT 2006
[...]
extra/linux-smp-2.6.17.13/kernel-generic-smp-2.6.17.13-i686-1.tgz:
This is an optional kernel with support for SMP (up to 16), dual core
optimizations, and SMT (Hyperthreading). Fully tuned and ready to go.
[...]
Fri Aug 25 04:35:22 CDT 2006
[...]
After much thought and consultation with developers, it has been decided to
move 2.6.17.x out of /testing and into /extra. It runs stable by all reports,
has better wireless support, and is not going to be stale as soon. In
addition, HIGHMEM4G has been enabled. This caused no problems with my old
486 with 24MB (the one I use for compiling KDE ;-), and Tomas Matejicek has
enabled this in SLAX for a long time with no reports of problems, so I
believe it is a safe option (and is needed by many modern machines).
Thanks again to Andrea for building these kernels and packages. :-)
Looks like Pat has done quite a lot of your work already

For me, I feel like the 2.6.x series has become stable enough for servers, but since 11.1 will be 2.6.x only, I'll stick with 2.4 for server and just keep 2.6 in my laptop until Slackware becomes 2.6-only (but I'm not 100% sure on this yet).
 
Old 09-26-2006, 06:29 PM   #24
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2.6.15 unless nvidia fix their buggy drivers that mess up textures :/
Can you expand on this? Basically I have a serious issue when playing Enemy Territory, where under some ET mods (etpub) the graphics start bugging out. It has been driving me up the wall, but you just made me realise that a while ago I switched from a self-compiled 2.6 to stock 2.4 kernel, maybe this is the problem?
 
Old 09-26-2006, 06:45 PM   #25
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2.6.x here, too... Since I don't own any production servers and the like, and since I am an "experimental person"* myself, without doubt I have been compiling the most recent kernel I have at hand. I don't see any reason for 2.4.x on my notebook.
I am planning to give Gentoo a longer try on my new desktop, if I ever have the time and patience. Otherwise of course it will have Slack on it; either way 2.6.x is my choice.
If I had an older server, I would think about it though... While 2.6 is out for a long time, "the longer tested, the better" motto makes me feel more secure.

* I am listening to Liquid Tension Experiment right now.

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Old 09-26-2006, 07:54 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by Nylex
Ahh, udev.. I'd forgotten about that. It sounds like something I'd like to try, so there's another reason for me wanting to use 2.6.
Anyone care to take a stab at explaining udev to the mere mortals (like me!) on the list?
 
Old 09-26-2006, 11:37 PM   #27
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I thought there was a pretty good explanation here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev
 
Old 09-27-2006, 02:38 PM   #28
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Right now I'm running current and my compiled 2.6.18. When 11.0 comes out I'll keep running that and upgrade whenever I feel like it.
Same thing here.
 
Old 09-27-2006, 02:48 PM   #29
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Likely, I would install 11.0 with huge26.s, then recompile kernel with my current .config file to 2.6.18
exactly what I'll do.
 
Old 09-27-2006, 03:13 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by Kovacs
Can you expand on this? Basically I have a serious issue when playing Enemy Territory, where under some ET mods (etpub) the graphics start bugging out. It has been driving me up the wall, but you just made me realise that a while ago I switched from a self-compiled 2.6 to stock 2.4 kernel, maybe this is the problem?
Well when I try any nvidia version after 8174 I get missing textures in UT so I'm kinda stuck with 8174, but 8174 will not install on a kernel later than 2.6.15 as far I can tell.

I've only tried 2.6.16 but it keeps giving an install error. I guess I will have to try 2.6.17/18 to test for sure though...
 
  


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