12.0 and HAL - READ THIS!

rworkman · 08-29-2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bashyow

Im just thinking about this guys

Ive got an external card reader.

if I dont set HAL at start up, and then go on to slot a memory card into the reader after boot, the system wont pick it up (DBUS?)

but when I put a usb pen drive directly into a usb slot after boot. the system (DBUS) does pick it up.

going back to the card reader, is this because DBUS is only seeing the cardreader itself and not the memory slots?

so HAL is needed to monitor the card reader slots for input of a memory card and pass that info onto DBUS?

DBUS isn't "picking up" anything - it's udev. The kernel generates uevents that udev receives, which then passes them to hal, which then does something (or not) with them by communicating over a message bus (DBUS).

In other words, it's the kernel you should be concerned with, not dbus (which is out of the picture entirely since you don't have hal running).

It sounds like you're on 12.0 since this isn't handled automatically - try running the /etc/rc.d/rc.scanluns script after inserting a card in the cardreader, and it should work. On 12.1, this isn't needed (and in fact, the rc.scanluns file is not present), as the kernel is configured to handle this automatically.

bashyow · 08-29-2008, 02:34 PM

thanks for clearing that up robby.

I am actually running 12.1, but HAL was off.

duryodhan · 09-17-2008, 04:47 AM

Hi

I was wondering, how do I change HAL's default mount settings... I would like to use the fmask/dmask/gid that for e.g is shown in http://slackwiki.org/NTFS-3G

I really don't like mounting drives with rwxrwxrwx root:root , I want it to mount as rw-rw-r-- and user:users

Any idea how I can force hal to do that for all NTFS/FAT devices ?

Slackware 12.1 btw,

rclaudio2003 · 12-17-2008, 08:23 AM

HI. I have a problem with hal. I has slack 12.1 with hal working perfectly, but now, I've upgraded to 12.2 with slackpkg and hal just doesn't work any more. I'm usin KDE 3.5.10 now (3.5.9 before). Is this common? I suppose that is some new configuration file the problem but i have no idea which one can be. GoodBye!

gegechris99 · 12-17-2008, 09:24 AM

Hello rclaudio2003,

As stated in UPGRADE.TXT

Quote:

6. Fix your config files. Some of the config files in /etc are going to
need your attention. You'll find the new incoming config files on
your system with the ".new" extension. You may need to fill these in
with information from your old config files and then move them over.

Feel brave? You can use this little script to install most of the
.new config files in /etc. If you've made any local changes you'll
need to add them to the newly installed files. Your old config files
will be copied to *.bak. Anyway, it might be an easier starting
point. Here it is:

#!/bin/sh
cd /etc
find . -name "*.new" | while read configfile ; do
if [ ! "$configfile" = "./rc.d/rc.inet1.conf.new" \
-a ! "$configfile" = "./rc.d/rc.local.new" \
-a ! "$configfile" = "./group.new" \
-a ! "$configfile" = "./passwd.new" \
-a ! "$configfile" = "./shadow.new" ]; then
cp -a $(echo $configfile | rev | cut -f 2- -d . | rev) \
$(echo $configfile | rev | cut -f 2- -d . | rev).bak 2> /dev/null
mv $configfile $(echo $configfile | rev | cut -f 2- -d . | rev)
fi
done

rworkman · 12-17-2008, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rclaudio2003

HI. I have a problem with hal. I has slack 12.1 with hal working perfectly, but now, I've upgraded to 12.2 with slackpkg and hal just doesn't work any more. I'm usin KDE 3.5.10 now (3.5.9 before). Is this common? I suppose that is some new configuration file the problem but i have no idea which one can be.

I suspect that you didn't *fully* upgrade to 12.2. Did you follow slackpkg's instructions? In other words, did you do "slackpkg install-new" first? If not, then you don't have parted installed, and that's at least part of the problem.

guanx · 03-08-2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duryodhan

Hi

I was wondering, how do I change HAL's default mount settings... I would like to use the fmask/dmask/gid that for e.g is shown in http://slackwiki.org/NTFS-3G

I really don't like mounting drives with rwxrwxrwx root:root , I want it to mount as rw-rw-r-- and user:users

Any idea how I can force hal to do that for all NTFS/FAT devices ?

Slackware 12.1 btw,

You can create a mount script for a specific filesystem:

Code:

$ cat /sbin/mount.vfat
#! /bin/sh

/sbin/mount -i -t vfat -o fmask=133,dmask=022 "$@" -o codepage=936,shortname=winnt

In here I "recommend" the fmask and dmask options, and "force" the codepage and shortname options.
Drawback: The "user" and "users" options in fstab will no longer work. If you need them, create a suid binary program instead of a script, and switch your identity to root before calling /sbin/mount.

41x · 04-19-2009, 10:52 PM

Quote:

:~$ dbus-monitor --system
signal sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> dest=:1.8 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.
DBus; member=NameAcquired
string ":1.8"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes
ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceRemoved
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun
0_scsi_generic"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes
ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceRemoved
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun
0"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes
ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceRemoved
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A_if0_scsi_host"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceRemoved
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A_if0"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceRemoved
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A_usbraw"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceRemoved
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceAdded
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceAdded
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A_if0"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceAdded
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A_usbraw"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceAdded
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A_if0_scsi_host"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceAdded
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun 0"
signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/freedesktop/Hal/Manager; interface=org.freedes ktop.Hal.Manager; member=DeviceAdded
string "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4e8_1d23_07720D80018A_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun 0_scsi_generic"

Can anyone help me with that? This is received upon mounting usb flash

XavierP · 08-13-2009, 04:01 AM

I have unstuck this thread - huge numbers of people are now on 12.1/2 or current or even the 64bit version. For those who aren't yet, either this thread was helpful and you no longer have the issue or you don't care any more

Lufbery · 08-13-2009, 08:29 AM

Unsticking this thread isn't a bad idea. I'd like to see this thread updated a bit for newer versions of Slackware. Or, at least, for the information to make it to the Slackbook.

rworkman · 08-13-2009, 08:44 AM

Drew,
Pretty much all of the needed information is now in CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT, so I personally don't think this thread (or an equivalent) is needed any more.

Lufbery · 08-13-2009, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rworkman

Drew,
Pretty much all of the needed information is now in CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT, so I personally don't think this thread (or an equivalent) is needed any more.

Good point, Robby. Thanks.