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Old 10-13-2004, 02:25 AM   #1
iain.ross
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Kde 3.3


I was just wondering how people got on upgrading to this version of KDE?

I use SuSE 9.1 Personal, and had to install a lot of dependancies before it would install (from the linux format coverdisc).

My thoughts are that as a lot of the dependencies were -devel, is it just because I am using the personal version?

I have had to download a lot of stuff in order to recompile my kernel (for the philips webcam) including kernel source, and compilers etc.

Were there many dependencies required for the pro users out there?
 
Old 10-13-2004, 04:25 AM   #2
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Hi Iain,

I haven't personally updated kde3.3 on SuSE Pro, but a friend of mine did... He had to download about 10 to 20 packages and had to install some of them about three times untill he could get kde working. The easiest way is to download all stuff directly from here... IIRC it's a bit messy bout the deps

To your kernel problem:
In general you should only have to download the kernel sources from here (30MB) or as you are using SuSE, just use YOU; gcc and make should be avaiable from your CD/DVD.

Hope it helps

Greets
G.
 
Old 10-13-2004, 06:48 AM   #3
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I'm running KDE 3.3 on SuSE 9.1 Professional. Best KDE ever...

IMO the best way to upgrade is to use apt4rpm/Synaptic. Just be careful about the gnome, usr-local-bin, suse-people, KOTD, and kde-unstable sections. They can get you into trouble if you aren't careful. gnome has an incomplete Gnome 2.6, and usr-local-bin has Gnome 2.8. You might also want to disable suser-gbv. He does good work, but includes later versions of GTK and some other stuff that breaks some stuff and/or requires cascading upgrades.

http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/
 
Old 10-14-2004, 06:05 AM   #4
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i actually did upgrade my suse 9.1 professional from kde3.2 to 3.3 by hand.

and yes, there were also a lot of dependencies to resolve... i prefer to have a quite complete set of packages and therefore, there were an additional number of packages to download just because of the dependencies.
so, after playing around for a while, downloading this and deleting that, i ended up with approximately 50-60 packages before i could finally do a clean upgrade.
 
Old 10-15-2004, 05:05 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally posted by kastorff
I'm running KDE 3.3 on SuSE 9.1 Professional. Best KDE ever...

IMO the best way to upgrade is to use apt4rpm/Synaptic. Just be careful about the gnome, usr-local-bin, suse-people, KOTD, and kde-unstable sections. They can get you into trouble if you aren't careful. gnome has an incomplete Gnome 2.6, and usr-local-bin has Gnome 2.8. You might also want to disable suser-gbv. He does good work, but includes later versions of GTK and some other stuff that breaks some stuff and/or requires cascading upgrades.

http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/
Keith, you've convinced me this is the way to upgrade to kde 3.3. Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list. How does it look, do I need to add any sources? Can you give us a few pointers on commands to use? Is it as simple as 'apt-get install kde' ?? Do we need to get a package list from somewhere? Thanks!

Code:
# Uncomment the line below, in case you want to use SuSE's patch rpms.
# Read the information about patch rpms at http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm

# rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 update-prpm security-prpm  

# A very basic sources.list line.  Fastest repository first.
# Remove "base" in case you are behind a
# slow connection.  Fastest repository first.
# Visit the server to determine which apt components are provided.
# rpm ftp://mirrors.mathematik.uni-bielefe...inux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 base update security

rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 base update security
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 update security suser-guru

# The list with all available components can be found at:
# http://linix01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm
# Some components provide experimental software, select wisely!
# http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ap...urces.list.FTP

# Consult the link above if you want to include uri's for src rpms

Last edited by Harryc; 10-15-2004 at 05:10 AM.
 
Old 10-15-2004, 05:10 AM   #6
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So if i want kde 3.3 i gotta download ALL the packages like all the packages here:
http://mirrors.isc.org/pub/kde/stabl...SuSE/ix86/9.1/


then use apt4 RPM to install it??? is there a step by step on how??
 
Old 10-15-2004, 05:12 AM   #7
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btw whats the diference of:

noarch / ix86 / x86_64 wich one is the one i need?? ix86??
 
Old 10-15-2004, 05:26 AM   #8
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Harryc

You can safely add at least the component kde3-stable.

That way you can very easily upgrade Kde.

Personally I use many more components, wich give me a lot of good apps.

I avoid anything prpm, xorg, kernel-of-the-day, kde-unstable.

However do not use too many components for a dist-upgrade: only: base, update, security, kd3-stable to be on the safe side.

Apt-get install kde won't work in SuSE, because kde is NOT a metapackage as it is in Debian.

With the above components perform a dist-upgrade.
 
Old 10-15-2004, 05:30 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mystical Itachi


then use apt4 RPM to install it??? is there a step by step on how??
If I have time (I don't have much at the moment) I'll post an howto.
 
Old 10-15-2004, 05:33 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mystical Itachi
btw whats the diference of:

noarch / ix86 / x86_64 wich one is the one i need?? ix86??
ix86 is fo 32 bits CPUs. x86_64 is for 64 bit CPUs. You most likely need the first.
 
Old 10-15-2004, 05:37 AM   #11
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Thank you, i appreciate your help...i look foward to your how to guide lol
 
Old 10-15-2004, 06:51 AM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by Alessandro
Harryc

You can safely add at least the component kde3-stable.

That way you can very easily upgrade Kde.

Personally I use many more components, wich give me a lot of good apps.

I avoid anything prpm, xorg, kernel-of-the-day, kde-unstable.

However do not use too many components for a dist-upgrade: only: base, update, security, kd3-stable to be on the safe side.

Apt-get install kde won't work in SuSE, because kde is NOT a metapackage as it is in Debian.

With the above components perform a dist-upgrade.
Thanks for the information. So my /etc/apt/sources.list should look like the below just prior to running a dist-upgrade. Please confirm.

Code:
# Uncomment the line below, in case you want to use SuSE's patch rpms.
# Read the information about patch rpms at http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm

# rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 update-prpm security-prpm  

# A very basic sources.list line.  Fastest repository first.
# Remove "base" in case you are behind a
# slow connection.  Fastest repository first.
# Visit the server to determine which apt components are provided.
# rpm ftp://mirrors.mathematik.uni-bielef...linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 base update security

rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 base update security kde3-stable suser-guru

# The list with all available components can be found at:
# http://linix01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm
# Some components provide experimental software, select wisely!
# http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/a...ources.list.FTP

# Consult the link above if you want to include uri's for src rpms

EDIT: Disregard, I ran the dist-upgrade with this sources.list and it went fine. If you follow this procedure, be sure to do an 'apt-get update' first. The only problem I had was that I had to uninstal kaffeine because of a conflict, but it was easily reinstalled using YAST and Packman source.

Last edited by Harryc; 10-15-2004 at 08:07 AM.
 
Old 10-15-2004, 08:14 AM   #13
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Just check the SuSE forum at linuxiso.org (sticky) on how to add updaate sources. Worked like a charm and I really care for the changes. It seems stable now and has seemed so for a week. 9.1 PRO



Dan Mac
 
Old 10-15-2004, 01:26 PM   #14
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You can also check forums.suselinuxsupport.de , they have a bunch of posts on how to update to KDE 3.3, and faq's about apt-get, etc. If you're going to use apt-get, make sure to add the proper sources as mentioned above, and then I would use synaptic (it's a gui version of apt-get). I actually used a how-to from that forum to update mine.

 
Old 10-15-2004, 02:01 PM   #15
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My apt.conf file:
Code:
# Uncomment the line below, in case you want to use SuSE's patch rpms.
# Read the information about patch rpms at http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm


# A very basic sources.list line.  Fastest repository first.
# Remove "base" in case you are behind a
# slow connection.  Fastest repository first.
# Visit the server to determine which apt components are provided.

# The list with all available components can be found at:
# http://linix01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm
# Some components provide experimental software, select wisely!
# http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ap...urces.list.FTP

# Consult the link above if you want to include uri's for src rpms

rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 update kde mozilla wine suse-projects kde3-stable security 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 gnome 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 usr-local-bin 
# rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 kernel-of-the-day 
# rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 update-prpm 
# rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 xorg 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 base 
# rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 suse-people 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 suser-ollakka 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 labplot 
# rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 security-prpm 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 packman packman-i686 
# rpm ftp://jpackage.hmdc.harvard.edu/JPackage/ 1.5/generic free 
# rpm-src ftp://jpackage.hmdc.harvard.edu/JPackage/ 1.5/generic non-free 
# rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 kde-unstable 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 suser-jogley 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 suser-guru 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 ximian 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 suser-sbarnin 
# rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 xfree86 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 suser-gbv 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 suser-rbos 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 suser-tcousin  
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 suser-scorot 
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 funktronics 
rpm ftp://mirrors.mathematik.uni-bielefe...inux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 base update security
I've got some stuff active I warn about, so be sure to make the changes. It's a pretty good start though. Install Synaptic and it will give you a GTK GUI for apt4rpm. That's what I use.

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