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02-04-2013, 10:01 AM
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Linux on Windows 8 PCs: Some progress, but still a nuisance
Last edited by onebuck; 05-26-2013 at 10:17 AM.
Reason: add additional info, add link
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02-06-2013, 10:09 AM
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I did some reading, cant this thing be disabled?
Not that I worry, I use ancient PC's
Thor
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02-06-2013, 10:17 AM
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It just kills me when people laugh at windows 8. It wasnt about a new version of windows, it was about uefi. MS isnt stupid, just diabolical.
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02-06-2013, 10:35 AM
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. MS isnt stupid, just diabolical.
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Umm...not really diabolical...more like... desperate. Have you seen what happened with dell? Simple. They grab a hold of a PC hardware platform, hope to seal themselves in and survive the downfall of locked-in software. Sad, just like in those horror movies where they tape of the doors and windows while the monster is in fact already inside
Edit : there have always been devices where a Linux install was/is (will be) a pain in the ***  - on the other hand, dell delivers Linux pre-installed servers. Ya really think it's gonna kick that (emerging) market?
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Secure boot doesn’t “lock out” operating system loaders, but is a policy that allows firmware to validate authenticity of components
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1) Buy bare metal. If you buy a bare metal machine without the Microsoft tax than this isn't going to be an issue.
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from Red Hat engineers themselves. I always built my PC's, then I went to second-hands (save the planet one PC at a time...)
From a page somewhere...
And, by the way, is'nt there a replacement for the BIOS?
Last edited by Thor_2.0; 02-06-2013 at 11:25 AM.
Reason: more ideas...just more ideas... :)
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02-06-2013, 11:42 AM
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Dell is going private! Reasons seem to be control of their platforms and the use of therefore hopefully control in the future.
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02-06-2013, 11:50 AM
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Dell is going private! Reasons seem to be control of their platforms and the use of therefore hopefully control in the future
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...in one word : desparate. But, a safe move too, once on the stock market, you're vulnerable to all sorts of *** 
It's writing on the wall though that ***soft joined in...locked-in has had its days...I think...
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02-06-2013, 10:00 PM
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And...by the way (been thinking last nite...) Linux is a MARKET now, you really think the industry is going to even allow someone to lock-in their market? A sizable portion of the Internet lives on Linux...
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02-06-2013, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor_2.0
And...by the way (been thinking last nite...) Linux is a MARKET now, you really think the industry is going to even allow someone to lock-in their market? A sizable portion of the Internet lives on Linux...
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I like the way you think 
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02-07-2013, 10:40 AM
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Thanks...I hope it rubs of, it helped me put stuff into perspecive....you were next, and...here you are, putting this into perspective...
The dinosaurs are still around, but they're smaller now, and far less of a nuisance  it's evolution...
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