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Old 07-20-2008, 11:35 PM   #1
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my NIC died , cant get new ones to work. stumped.


Issue: nic card.dead.


system:
sw: redhat9 kernel 2.4.20-8 , installed with NO GUI, only CL.
running apache for a web server and vsftpd
sitting behind, befser41 router via dsl.
fixed IP 10.10.10.12 and gateway at 10.10.10.100 ( with forwarding in router, etc)

hw: MS6131(msi-mobo) PentiumII-400 ( sound , rs232, printer ports all turned off in BIOS)
with onboard lan= Intel 82559 Pro100, video, sound.

ran for 5 year's no one crash ,and then LAN port started going flacky, then 1 week later, dead.

can't ping self, shows, link bit false (no leds) tried for 2 days to bring it back, and gave up.
reading hundreds of linux forums,etc.

so decided to replace the OB-Lan with addin-PCI NIC.
so disabled OBLAN, via bios.

I then tried the following cards.in the PCI slot.
3com950b ( conflects and errors will doing modeprob.
netgear, Fa310tx,ver D2 , load but it too spits errors constantly.
Realtek, RLT8029 (old) it too spits errors.
so I go to the store and pick the nicest card from the RH-HCL, a RTL8169SC Gigalan card.
I then edit the /etc/modules.conf with alias eth0 for r8169.
I boot and get errors on this load.

LSmod shows nothing.

ifconfig, shows nothing for eth0 or any type of ethernet chips.

I have the driver module that came with RH9 , located in, //lib/modules/2.4.20-8/kernel/drivers/net/R8169


looking at interupt table in linux shows no NICS.

i installed with no GUI and no compiler.
so I will have to install rh9 on another PC with compiler and
compile the module , r8169.o
and try that.
is have tried ever permutation of bios ,PNP, to no avail. (4 ways)

anyone that can shed some light on this ,thank you !
 
Old 07-21-2008, 05:11 AM   #2
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Probably a defective PCI bus - did you run 'lspci' to see what the machine has found?
Did you try putting the cards in another slot?
 
Old 07-21-2008, 07:25 AM   #3
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Agree. I think you are in for getting new h/w, at least the mobo.

While you're at it, consider dumping the obsolete RH 9.0 in favor of CentOS/RHEL 5.x (I assume you want to stay w/ RH). Since you'll be rebuilding the system, update the OS also.
 
Old 07-22-2008, 01:19 PM   #4
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yes , you are correct i think. time for a new box.

the "lspci" never shows any thing ever on the old box.

old box is NLX , MSI-concetroIII+ ms-6204 with outrigger that has PCI slots. this out rigger runs IDE, and Floppy and has two spare PCI slots 1 and 1 and back slot is share, (yes) with ISA.
have the manual and it mentions nothing about configing this outrigger.
i tried both slots with lspci and all bios , PNP MODES TO NO AVAIL.

MIGHT just go back to my old atx box P3-500 .


i will try plugging in a SCSI card and look at lspci again.

and pull the riser and inspec it carefully..

the nic card does have power 5.00vdc. checked that.


5 NICS fail lspic test. and all work in alternate , linux and xp boxs.


thanks for helping.

I presume lspci is lowest level detection of PCI pnp ? correct.
it does a scan,
or does it just report what the last boot found.

sorry for dump questions.

cheers.
 
Old 07-22-2008, 01:25 PM   #5
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i just plugged in a advsys. scsi car PCI into slot 1 of the outrigger , pci buss.
it is immediatly descovered , as 00:14.0 scsi storage controller.

so why cant my 5 nic cards get discovered.

may be interrutpt conflict? with old nic chip on board? (off now in bios?)

strange symptoms.
 
Old 07-22-2008, 05:10 PM   #6
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I don't know what's happening - maybe just a bad connection somewhere and the thing needs a clean? It's really strange that the NICs won't be seen but something else would - did you try to test the SCSI card by attaching a spare HD and reading/writing? It is possible that some address lines are bad and by coincidence they affect all the NICs.

'lspci' lists information that was obtained from the ROM of the PCI devices; this is information which all PCI devices must provide so you can discover and print information about a PCI device, even if you don't have a driver to operate it.
 
Old 07-22-2008, 08:36 PM   #7
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thanks !!!

hi penniped;

thanks for the help. and the details on lspci.

i tried a old S3 VGA add in pci and lspci finds it.
i will try your scsi live test with real disk,

this old MSI unit is 100% intel chips, cept auto and lan.

later today:
i bought a micro atx, from newegg.
ECS Goal3+(1.1C) AMD 64 Sempron 3000+ 754 SiS 761 GX Micro ATX Motherboard/CPU Combo - Retail
with

RTL8201CL


what linux distro's would be best for this newer MOBO.

thanks again,.


PS:
pulled my old mobo and resoldered the transformer pins and then cat , mc45
connector pins (common fail) and will see tomorrow.

but my long term is above new combo with mirco atx case.


thanks you , jerry
 
Old 07-23-2008, 01:19 AM   #8
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Centos

just got a copy of CENtos, v4 single server disk.


could not find the HCL.

Red hats HCL is trash, why you cant just print it out is a wonder.
they just want you to buy a new Dell, hahahahah

ok I loaded Centos single disc server.
what a dream boat that is .
15min and its in and running.
edit 3 lines and on line with my web page , copying my web pages over one.
on a on Asus P3-500 MOBO system with 10k SCSI drives.
it found my , RLT8169 giga lan car and hit the deck running.
missing in the HCL look up, so i will just print out all the drivers in the lib.

I wonder if RH can support the Chain Via C3 processors?
full mobos with 800 mha cpu for $20! new.

so i will have my new micro atx in 2 days, UPS has it now)
retrospect:
the real problem was a bad PCI chip on old mobo.

the people that use my server , offered me free web space,what a kick !

just default page , till tomorrow.

http://carfix.stufftoread.com/

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