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Old 07-29-2005, 11:26 AM   #1
murray_linux
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multiple processes everytime i start a process

Hey I have kind of a weird one here,

Everytime I start a daemon or application it spawns off way to many processes.. Like I'll start tomcat, and 4 tomcat processes start up.. Anyone have a clue as to why that would be happening?

Here's my running processes before tomcat (you can see some of my apps have multiple processes..)

Code:
[murray@slurmhat bin]$ ps -ef |grep murray
murray    6067  5988  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/gnome-session
murray    6118  6067  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients
murray    6122     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 5
murray    6125     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=16
murray    6127     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 gnome-settings-daemon --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon --oaf-ior-fd=14
murray    6132  5695  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 fam
murray    6137     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 xscreensaver -nosplash
murray    6140     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/metacity --sm-client-id=default1
murray    6144     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 gnome-panel --sm-client-id default2
murray    6146     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:01 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6148     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 magicdev --sm-client-id default4
murray    6150     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 eggcups --sm-client-id default6
murray    6152     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 pam-panel-icon --sm-client-id default0
murray    6154     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/rhn-applet-gui --sm-client-id default5
murray    6156  6146  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6157  6156  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6158  6156  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6159  6156  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6160  6156  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6161  6156  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6163     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/notification-area-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_NotificationAreaApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=20
murray    6165     1  0 08:12 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
murray    6166  6165  0 08:12 ?        00:00:00 gnome-pty-helper
murray    6167  6165  0 08:12 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
murray    6231  6167  0 08:20 pts/0    00:00:00 ps -ef
murray    6232  6167  0 08:20 pts/0    00:00:00 grep murray

Then I start tomcat..

Code:
[murray@slurmhat bin]$ ./startup.sh
Using CATALINA_BASE:   /home/murray/tomcat
Using CATALINA_HOME:   /home/murray/tomcat
Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /home/murray/tomcat/temp
Using JAVA_HOME:       /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07
now check out how many tomcat processes I have:

Code:
[murray@slurmhat bin]$ ps -ef |grep murray
murray    6067  5988  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/gnome-session
murray    6118  6067  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients
murray    6122     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 5
murray    6125     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=16
murray    6127     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 gnome-settings-daemon --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon --oaf-ior-fd=14
murray    6132  5695  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 fam
murray    6137     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 xscreensaver -nosplash
murray    6140     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/metacity --sm-client-id=default1
murray    6144     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 gnome-panel --sm-client-id default2
murray    6146     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:01 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6148     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 magicdev --sm-client-id default4
murray    6150     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 eggcups --sm-client-id default6
murray    6152     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 pam-panel-icon --sm-client-id default0
murray    6154     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/rhn-applet-gui --sm-client-id default5
murray    6156  6146  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6157  6156  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6158  6156  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6159  6156  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6160  6156  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6161  6156  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
murray    6163     1  0 08:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/notification-area-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_NotificationAreaApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=20
murray    6165     1  0 08:12 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
murray    6166  6165  0 08:12 ?        00:00:00 gnome-pty-helper
murray    6167  6165  0 08:12 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
murray    6234     1  0 08:20 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /home/murray/firefox/firefox
murray    6246  6234  0 08:20 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /home/murray/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /home/murray/firefox/firefox-bin
murray    6251  6246  3 08:20 ?        00:00:06 /home/murray/firefox/firefox-bin
murray    6253  6251  0 08:20 ?        00:00:00 /home/murray/firefox/firefox-bin
murray    6254  6253  0 08:20 ?        00:00:00 /home/murray/firefox/firefox-bin
murray    6256  6253  0 08:20 ?        00:00:00 /home/murray/firefox/firefox-bin
murray    6270     1 40 08:23 pts/0    00:00:03 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6271  6270  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6272  6271  7 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6273  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6274  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6275  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6276  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6277  6271  7 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6278  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6280  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6281  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6282  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6283  6167  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 ps -ef
murray    6284  6167  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 grep murray

That ain't normal! Thanks for your help in advance..
 
Old 07-29-2005, 12:00 PM   #2
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make sure this is indeed happening "everytime" you start a process, cuz it's not weird for some programs... take squid, this is what squid looks like while running on my box:
Code:
bash-3.00$ ps aux | grep squid
root       379  0.0  0.9  4244 1204 ?        Ss   11:53   0:00 squid
squid      381  0.1  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      382  0.0  0.2  1248  268 ?        Ss   11:53   0:00 (unlinkd)
squid      383  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      384  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      385  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      386  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      387  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      388  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      389  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      390  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      391  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      392  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      393  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      394  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      395  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      396  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      397  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      398  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
squid      399  0.0  3.8 39680 4892 ?        S    11:53   0:00 (squid)
completely normal, as i compiled it with posix threads...

just my two cents...
 
Old 07-29-2005, 02:21 PM   #3
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its not every process. gedit only loads one..

but tomcat shouldn't be loading that many for sure. and i see firefox has a bunch (not sure if there should be that many)..

I have no idea why this would be happening..
 
Old 07-29-2005, 03:16 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally posted by murray_linux
tomcat shouldn't be loading that many for sure.
are you 100% sure?? cuz it's quite common for server apps to use threads... notice how the PPID of most of your tomcat processes is 6271:
Code:
murray    6270     1 40 08:23 pts/0    00:00:03 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6271  6270  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6272  6271  7 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6273  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6274  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6275  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6276  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6277  6271  7 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6278  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6280  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6281  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
murray    6282  6271  0 08:23 pts/0    00:00:00 /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/murray/tomcat/common/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_07/lib/tools.jar:/home/murray/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=/home/murray/tomcat -Dcatalina.home=/home/murray/tomcat -Djava.io.tmpdir=/home/
just as most of my squid processes have the same parent process (486 in my case) also:
Code:
bash-3.00$ ps -ef | grep squid
root       482     1  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 squid
squid      484   482  0 14:28 ?        00:00:01 (squid)
squid      485   484  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (unlinkd)
squid      486   484  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      487   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      488   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      489   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      490   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      491   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      492   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      493   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      494   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      495   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      496   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      497   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      498   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      499   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      500   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      501   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
squid      502   486  0 14:28 ?        00:00:00 (squid)
Quote:
i see firefox has a bunch (not sure if there should be that many)
to give you something to compare with, this is what it looks like when i run firefox and log into a web-based email account:
Code:
bash-3.00$ ps aux | grep firefox
win32sux      518  0.1  1.0  2404 1328 ?        Ss   14:32   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/firefox
win32sux      538  0.1  1.0  2432 1332 ?        S    14:32   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.6/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.6/firefox-bin
win32sux      543 26.6 22.3 48100 28324 ?       S    14:32   0:08 /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.6/firefox-bin
win32sux      545  0.0 22.3 48100 28324 ?       S    14:32   0:00 /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.6/firefox-bin
win32sux      546  0.4 22.3 48100 28324 ?       S    14:32   0:00 /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.6/firefox-bin
win32sux      547  0.0 22.3 48100 28324 ?       S    14:32   0:00 /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.6/firefox-bin
win32sux      548  0.0 22.3 48100 28324 ?       S    14:32   0:00 /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.6/firefox-bin
win32sux      550  0.0 22.3 48100 28324 ?       S    14:33   0:00 /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.6/firefox-bin
Quote:
I have no idea why this would be happening..
threads...

BTW, some server apps have paramenters you can adjust in their config files to control the amount of child processes they spawn, etc... but i honestly have no idea what tomcat is so i don't know any specifics...
 
Old 07-29-2005, 05:01 PM   #5
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uninstalled VMWare workstation, everything works fine now

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