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brian111 11-24-2011 06:13 AM

Reluctantly Going Back to XP
 
I use a fairly low spec laptop (Dell Inspiron 4100 with 256MB RAM) to stream music from my NAS drive, and hoping to reduce the start-up time I set up a dual boot into Puppy Lupu 5.2.8. Everything works, but I haven't been able to find a media player that works consistently; the best to date is the default GNOME/mplayer which can create playlists by drag/dropping folders containing subfolders, and generally doesn't stutter during playback. However it often crashes (silent) during playback of a long-ish playlist after a variable time usually around half an hour.
Reluctantly I've concluded I'm better off running XP/Windows Media Player on the same machine and using Hibernate to speed the start-up; once it starts to play a playlist it neither stutters nor crashes. I'm a bit surprised my Linux solution isn't more robust than XP on the same hardware.
Any thoughts?
Brian

pupfan 11-24-2011 07:32 AM

Hi Brian111.

Have you tried the music player deadbeef? I am not sure it does playlists myself. I do know its very low on resource usage.

I like it cuz i can add everything in a folder or directory & it will play them without issue.

jim1911 11-24-2011 09:59 AM

Deadbeef
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pupfan (Post 4532750)
Hi Brian111.

Have you tried the music player deadbeef? I am not sure it does playlists myself. I do know its very low on resource usage.

I like it cuz i can add everything in a folder or directory & it will play them without issue.

I also like it, I believe that pemasu's deadbeef.pet at http://smokey01.com/pemasu/Pets/ will work with 5.2.8.

John VV 11-24-2011 11:54 AM

Quote:

I'm a bit surprised my Linux solution isn't more robust than XP on the same hardware.
let's see
xp -- a 10+ year old OS built and designed for hardware from 1998

any modern OS ( this includes Win7 )

built and designed for MODERN hardware

have you looked at Damn Small Linux ?
or CentOS 5.7 or the much older 4.9

TobiSGD 11-24-2011 12:05 PM

For a purpose like yours I personally would go for a minimal install with just the needed packages installed. Since I don't want to fiddle much with it I would use Debian for it, install a simple environment (a simple WM or may be LXDE) and then the music-player of your choice ( I usually use Audacious, don't need no extras, only want to play music with a music player). And of course you can use suspend or hibernation on Linux also.

jpeters 11-24-2011 02:09 PM

Try mplayer instead. Using gnome adds about 125M. Lucid requires a little more RAM..you could try Wary. Also, run with the "nocopy" option so the OS doesn't load into RAM. I run old dell laptops, but pay the extra $20 to upgrade to 1gig....even then, I'll turn off unnecessary processes. Puppy will run much faster even on an old laptop than XP(or win7) will on a new computer.

Doc CPU 11-24-2011 02:20 PM

Hi there,

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV (Post 4532952)
xp -- a 10+ year old OS built and designed for hardware from 1998

any modern OS ( this includes Win7 )

Windows 7 isn't an OS - it's a natural disaster. If you ask me, Windows XP is the latest Windows that may qualify as an OS. All its successors (Vista, Seven) just drive you into insanity.

[X] Doc CPU

Amdx2_x64 11-24-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc CPU (Post 4533037)
Hi there,



Windows 7 isn't an OS - it's a natural disaster. If you ask me, Windows XP is the latest Windows that may qualify as an OS. All its successors (Vista, Seven) just drive you into insanity.

[X] Doc CPU

Disaster? Wait until Windows 8.

jonyo 11-24-2011 03:34 PM

i use whatever works and makes my life easier, for lotsa stuff, it's win hands down end of story

might have a look a at these though

grump 11-24-2011 06:51 PM

I've settled on Audacious in Slacko 5.3 - can drag and drop folders to make playlists - but the longest I have so far is about 40 songs, so can't tell how it goes with REALLY BIG lists.

First post BTW - another refugee from Murga-Linux. I'll post an intro later.

edoc 11-24-2011 07:55 PM

Let's see, five laptops and two netbooks ... all on Puppy Linux - Squeeze 5x9 - all working fine and meeting every need.

I don't have to pay for the OS, I don't have to worry about boatloads of MS-specific viruses, and I don't put money in the pocket of Bill Gates.

It's all good here in Linuxville ...

rokytnji 11-24-2011 08:29 PM

Gnome-Mplayer is a resource hog on 256MB of ram without a /swap partition which the OP failed to post in detail on installation of Puppy 528. He would have been better served using either GogglesMM,Qmmp,or Xmms on 256MB of ram.

The stuttering was probably caused by no /swap partiton and running Puppy in ram also. Instead of a pxfix=noram option for boot on a full install. Like I said. No details were giving on how Puppy was installed on a 256MB ram Laptop. By the way. Windows XP uses Virtual Memory and was a full install. My guess was Puppy was installed frugally and ran in ram with GnomeMplayer running.

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brian111 11-25-2011 03:23 AM

I see I've stirred up some reaction! Thanks for the various suggestions - I may well try the other media player options as it would still be nice to avoid the interminable anti-virus hassle.
My install is Frugal Puppy with a .5GB swap partition.
Here's what a 'top' memory looks like when GNOME/mplayer is running:
Mem: 191676K used, 63536K free, 0K shrd, 5668K buff, 62440K cached
Brian

brian111 11-25-2011 07:41 AM

I've now installed Deadbeef; so far so good...
Brian

rokytnji 11-25-2011 09:51 AM

Try giving your boot parameter the pfix=noram option also so Puppy does not run in ram. Look at the wary thread in this section of forum. I posted my /boot/grub/menu.lst there to show what I mean.


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