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Old 09-12-2006, 08:44 AM   #1
vvkozmenko
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Puppy vs Knopix


Hi, guys,
I have tried both Knopix and Puppy (Puppy with Office 2.0 is my favorite). I like them both. Still I have several questions:

1. What is the difference between Knopix and Puppy?

2. What is the advantage of running Puppy from RAM? (From my stand point, it increases minimum system requirements)

3. Can I run Puppy from the hard drive instead of RAM? (what would be RAM requirement in that case)

Thank you.

Val
 
Old 09-12-2006, 10:37 AM   #2
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Knoppix: Heavy infantry tank
Puppy: All-terrain bicycle

Stuff running in RAM is faster, so that's what you do if you have enough RAM. Puppy 2.xx runs completely in RAM in 128Mb or more. If there's less, it really helps to have a swap partition.

You can install Puppy to a hard drive in two ways: Option 1 simply puts the CD files on the HD, so they can be read faster at boot, and then runs in RAM anyway. You still boot from the CD. This is the fastest way to run Puppy, if you have the RAM.

Option 2 is a normal HD install like other distros do, and boots using GRUB. This is a better option if you don't want to keep the CD with your machine (think laptop), and/or have less than 128Mb. I have an ancient portable with 80Mb running Puppy like this.

Cheers,
Mark
 
Old 09-12-2006, 02:35 PM   #3
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Hi, Mark,

I guess you can help me with an advice.

It is almost two weeks that I am looking at the following thing

http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjr/index.html

If I go for it, I need to decide what version of Puppy to use (I like Puppy 2.0.2 with Office 2.0)

The purpose of this very low end machine is to have a cheap, preferable diskless computer to take with me for traveling.

If I have Puppy with Office on it, will it work OK?

Am I stupid? Should I better go for a used laptop PC with 256 Mb or RAM?

I am trying to come with a little thing with basic functionality - internet, email and IM - on a cheap machine.

I would like to hear to your opinion.

Thanks.

Val
 
Old 09-15-2006, 02:56 AM   #4
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The main difference is Knoppix users recommend Puppy
http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtop...er=asc&start=0

I used Knoppix and used it as a basis to install Debian
I still have a copy. I find Puppy does everything I require.
Is easier to use and boots about 6 times faster.
Oh and it runs faster too because it does not have to pull software
from CD as it loads all its software into RAM

Here is why Puppy is cool - hence all the snow scenes . . .
http://www.tmxxine.com/p3/
 
Old 10-26-2006, 06:06 PM   #5
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I have tried both Knopix and Puppy (Puppy with Office 2.0 is my favorite). I like them both. Still I have several questions:

1. What is the difference between Knopix and Puppy? Puppy is built form the ground up not a verient on another distro.

2. What is the advantage of running Puppy from RAM? (From my stand point, it increases minimum system requirements) Speed - Ram is the second fast component in a computer

3. Can I run Puppy from the hard drive instead of RAM? (what would be RAM requirement in that case I have installed) Yes you can run from hard drive - use gparted to make both as swap partition min 256meg recommanded 1gig) and primary boot partion ( creating primary apply then go back set flag are to boot or it will not boot)
Reboot so the swap partition is avilable for puppyos cd then install to hd (this will let you install with under 128 meg form the cd- I have done it with as little as 32 meg)

Wscarl
 
Old 10-27-2006, 06:56 AM   #6
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1. What is the difference between Knopix and Puppy? Puppy is built form the ground up not a verient on another distro.

knoppix is based on Debian
Puppy was created from scratch. It is not a variant. There are variants of Puppy such as Grafpup.


2. What is the advantage of running Puppy from RAM? (From my stand point, it increases minimum system requirements) Speed - Ram is the second fast component in a computer

If running from RAM, a program does not need loading. It is already running. So even on old equipment if Puppy is not using a swap drive (which it can) and running with 128MB of RAM it is very fast. It makes everything very usable if you are a power user but have old equipment.

People have run with 32M RAM but you would probably be better off with Deliware
or a system designed around such restrictions
 
Old 10-27-2006, 08:17 AM   #7
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Among the others advantages, imho, there is one another that push Puppy to the sky such as my preferred distro ;-). It is the possibility to boot from CD and to have a personal storage file in a hard disk partition. You can enlarge this file whenever you need it and, of course, it is really simple and fast migrating your work pc to another transferring personal storage file and using always the CD to boot it.

Of course, also backup are very much simplified, so I find this is really powerful and flexible.

Last but not least, you can make your personal distro from the one you are using like I'm making now with an educational one for the kids I'm trying to help with our LUG.

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