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Old 04-21-2010, 10:59 PM   #1
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Puppy Linux as primary OS?


Hi all,
I'm relatively new to Linux. I've tried many different distos (all by booting live using unetbootin).

I've actually found Puppy to be one of my favorites, despite it being 'minimalist'.

My question is, would it be a waste to install to HD? Would I get better use out of a more 'complete' distro with more features? Am I cheating myself? I'm planning on dual booting with windows, just for certain software I need to run.

But I have a pretty new computer. Pentium Dual Core, 3GB RAM, etc. (No dedicated Graphics card though, just integrated) My computer isn't old by any means. I know I can keep puppy on my flash drive, but I really want to use linux on my HD. Would I be better served by something meant for HD installation, rather than using puppy (seemingly meant for live booting/older machines?)

Puppy has just seemed to work for me, ie no hardware conflicts, really fast, etc.

I'm new to these forums, so sorry if a question like this has already been posted. I tried searching but couldn't find anything.

Cheers
 
Old 04-22-2010, 02:01 AM   #2
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hi, Super

You should start from the answer to a question - What will you do on you computer?

But in general - why not? As I see, Puppy has everything needed for common everyday work - office programs, pidgin, browser and so on.
So, if you don't need anything extremely specific or working only with Windows, I think you may use your favourite Linux distro.

Last edited by Lexus45; 04-22-2010 at 02:02 AM.
 
Old 04-22-2010, 02:42 AM   #3
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Yes you can install Puppy to HD.

Puppy has a pretty unique way of installing, called a "Frugal Install". While you can install Puppy fully to HD just like any other distro, the frugal way is much more elegant and delivers a number of advantages, least of which is the usage of SFS files for large programs such as OpenOffice.

This is how it's done
http://www.puppylinux.org/main/index...-English05.txt

Install Puppy on a separate partition formated as ext2/3/4. Then install grub via the menu and start Puppy from the grub splash screen at the beginning of the boot process; no CDs needed.

The standard Puppy still is 4.3.1.
If you want to live on the edge try these
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/vie...=406327#406327
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=53897
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54455
 
Old 04-22-2010, 06:36 AM   #4
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I can add this version.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=53419

that one is cool too.

If you love to do partitions and such then by all means do it but if you like me
prefer to let the windows install to be left untouched then do frugal install without
adding any partition. Works great. I have at least fifteen different puppies in frugal install plus a few other linux like debian mepis Antix and tinyCore and Slitaz and Sidux
and Xpud.

Quote:
title quirky-013
kernel (hd0,0)/quirky-013/vmlinuz psubdir=quirky-013
initrd (hd0,0)/quirky-013/initrd.gz
boot


title lupu000
kernel (hd0,0)/lupu000/vmlinuz psubdir=lupu000
initrd (hd0,0)/lupu000/initrd.gz
boot

title quirky-018
kernel (hd0,0)/quirky-018/vmlinuz psubdir=quirky-018
initrd (hd0,0)/quirky-018/initrd.gz
boot

title puppy431std
kernel (hd0,0)/pup-431/vmlinuz psubdir=pup-431
initrd (hd0,0)/pup-431/initrd.gz
boot

title pup-432-SCSI
kernel (hd0,0)/pup-432-SCSI/vmlinuz psubdir=pup-432-SCSI
initrd (hd0,0)/pup-432-SCSI/initrd.gz
boot

title pup-431jpqs
kernel (hd0,0)/pup-431jpqs/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 psubdir=pup-431jpqs
initrd (hd0,0)/pup-431jpqs/initrd.gz
boot

title flexxxpup1.8
find --set-root /flexxxpup1.8/vmlinuz
kernel /flexxxpup1.8/vmlinuz psubdir=flexxxpup1.8
initrd /flexxxpup1.8/initrd.gz
boot

title lighthouse puppy
kernel (hd0,0)/lighthouse/vmlinuz PMEDIA=satahd PDEV1=sda1 psubdir=lighthouse psubOK=TRUE
initrd (hd0,0)/lighthouse/initrd.gz
boot


title turbopup
kernel (hd0,0)/turbopup/vmlinuz psubdir=turbopup
initrd (hd0,0)/turbopup/initrd.gz
boot

title pup-431-2 frugal technosauros AKA pup-44 test
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /pup-431-2/vmlinuz pmedia=satahd psubdir=pup-431-2
initrd /pup-431-2/initrd.gz
boot

title pup432 linnwin puppy
kernel (hd0,0)/pup432/vmlinuz PMEDIA=satahd PDEV1=sda1 psubdir=pup432 psubOK=TRUE

initrd (hd0,0)/pup432/initrd.gz
boot


title pup-NOP431
find --set-root /nop/vmlinuz
kernel /nop/vmlinuz psubdir=nop
initrd /nop/initrd.gz
boot

title puppy stardust-013
kernel (hd0,0)/stardust-013/vmlinuz PMEDIA=satahd PDEV1=sda1 psubdir=stardust-013 psubOK=TRUE

initrd (hd0,0)/stardust-013/initrd.gz
boot

title k9 puppy
kernel (hd0,0)/k9/vmlinuz PMEDIA=satahd PDEV1=sda1 psubdir=k9 psubOK=TRUE

initrd (hd0,0)/k9/initrd.gz
boot

title dpup-484beta4-2.6.30.5.iso
find --set-root /dpup/vmlinuz
kernel /dpup/vmlinuz psubdir=dpup
initrd /dpup/initrd.gz
boot


title upup-458 playdays
find --set-root /upup-458/vmlinuz
kernel /upup-458/vmlinuz psubdir=upup-458
initrd /upup-458/initrd.gz
boot

title Macpup Foxy 3
kernel (hd0,0)/macpup/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=satahd
PDEV1=sda1 psubdir=macpup psubOK=TRUE

initrd (hd0,0)/macpup/initrd.gz
boot

title brunopup
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /brunopup/vmlinuz pmedia=satahd psubdir=brunopup
initrd /brunopup/initrd.gz


title mu puppy
kernel (hd0,0)/mu/vmlinuz PMEDIA=satahd PDEV1=sda1 psubdir=mu psubOK=TRUE

initrd (hd0,0)/mu/initrd.gz
boot


title teen_pup-mini
kernel (hd0,0)/teen_pup-mini/vmlinuz PMEDIA=satahd PDEV1=sda1 psubdir=teen_pup-mini psubOK=TRUE

initrd (hd0,0)/teen_pup-mini/initrd.gz
boot


title salix keyb=${se}
kernel /salix/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 rw changes=slxsave.xfs
initrd /salix/boot/initrd.gz


title antiX-M8.5-prefinal frugal suggested on the antiX forum 03/28/2010
kernel (hd0,0)/antiX/vmlinuz fromhd=/dev/sda1 fromiso=/antiX/antiX-M8.5-prefinal.iso lang=us vga=788
initrd (hd0,0)/antiX/initrd.gz
boot

title tinycore
kernel /tinycore/bzImage max_loop=256
initrd /tinycore/tinycore.gz
boot


title xPUD
root=(hd0,0)
kernel /xpud/boot/bzImage noisapnp lang=se
initrd=/xpud/opt/core /xpud/opt/media



title xPUD 0.9.2 iso-boot
root (hd0,0)
kernel /xpud-0.9.2-image noisapnp quiet lang=se screen=1024x786

title superos (Ubuntu linux)
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed persistent boot=casper splash --
initrd /casper/initrd.lz
boot

title Slitaz
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /slitaz/bzimage
kernel /slitaz/bzimage rw root=/dev/null autologin home=hda1 vga=normal

initrd /slitaz/rootfs.gz

Last edited by nooby; 04-22-2010 at 06:44 AM.
 
Old 04-22-2010, 07:13 AM   #5
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son of a gun nooby,

I thought I had a big Puppy setup.
But my 6 Puppies plus XP pales in comparison to yours.

Wow!
 
Old 04-22-2010, 07:18 AM   #6
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One word in addition to nooby's setup:

It looks like you have it all on hda1 or C:
One can do that, but if you want to keep things tidy, you might want to consider an extra partition for all the Linuxes. Make it an ext3 Linux partition and put all your Puppies into a subdirectory each. That way you have a clean order of things and keep C: in Windows free from a bunch of unrelated folders.

In the end it boils down to a matter of taste and order. Either way works.
 
Old 04-22-2010, 07:51 AM   #7
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Hi Super, basically Linux is Linux is Linux... the important thing is the applications... if Puppy has all the applications you need for your work/play (web browser, office, media player, whatever your needs are) then why not?

My only reservation about Puppy is that you are always the root user. This makes it too easy, in my opinion, to, for example, accidentally nuke your Windows data by clicking the wrong button, without having to enter a password. If you are the only user of the computer and are comfortable with the risk, then it is up to you. (note: I haven't tested Puppy in a while and have heard rumors that newer versions might fix this security flaw, so my info here might be out of date.)
 
Old 04-22-2010, 07:53 AM   #8
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Quote:
Would I get better use out of a more 'complete' distro with more features?
Probably not.
I have Puppy, and I am running apache, mysql, and bind on it. I have found Puppy a very versatile distro. In answer to your question, the main difference between distros is the pre-installed programs -- and you can install more programs. I prefer to start with a minimal distro, and then add exactly what I will use. The only drawback I have found with Puppy is its lack of installed documentation such as man pages and info files.
 
Old 06-02-2010, 09:21 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Super View Post
Hi all,
I'm relatively new to Linux. I've tried many different distos (all by booting live using unetbootin).

I've actually found Puppy to be one of my favorites, despite it being 'minimalist'.

My question is, would it be a waste to install to HD? Would I get better use out of a more 'complete' distro with more features? Am I cheating myself? I'm planning on dual booting with windows, just for certain software I need to run.

But I have a pretty new computer. Pentium Dual Core, 3GB RAM, etc. (No dedicated Graphics card though, just integrated) My computer isn't old by any means. I know I can keep puppy on my flash drive, but I really want to use linux on my HD. Would I be better served by something meant for HD installation, rather than using puppy (seemingly meant for live booting/older machines?)

Puppy has just seemed to work for me, ie no hardware conflicts, really fast, etc.

I'm new to these forums, so sorry if a question like this has already been posted. I tried searching but couldn't find anything.

Cheers
I dual boot Windows Xp and Puppy on my laptop. And honestly, if I didn't need Visual Studio for my classes, I would get rid of Xp completely. I recently upgraded to Puppy 5.0 and with all the packages you can install (like Wine) Windows Xp is almost obsolete to me.
 
  


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