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Old 01-08-2010, 02:14 AM   #1
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Puppy 4.3.1 on Eee PC 701SD wireless problem


A search of the Puppy forum didn't help. I've recently aquired an Eee PC 701SD and have Puppy 4.3.1 running from a 2GB SD card. The first significant problem I'm having is getting the wireless connection working. While trying Eeebuntu from a SD card boot I found that it identified the wireless device as an rtl8187SE. Switching back to Puppy I've tried to load the rtl8187 driver, which is described in the driver listing as being for the 8187 and 8187B, but it returns a message that no new devices were found. The wireless light comes on at boot-up, but it isn't working in Puppy.

My experience level is very low, its not often that I'm working on, versus working with, an operating system.

Ron.T

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Old 01-08-2010, 07:52 AM   #2
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Puppy Linux Wireless How To
 
Old 01-08-2010, 09:27 AM   #3
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Didn't help

The setting up the wireless site didn't help. Puppy apparently doesn't recognise the wireless device and doesn't load the correct driver, or the correct driver isn't in 4.3.1 It does work with Eeebuntu and of course the Xandros it came with.
 
Old 01-08-2010, 11:14 AM   #4
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Go to Menu > System > Hardinfo

In the left pane click “Network”.

Under network click “Interfaces”.

The right pane should list all network adapters. If yours is listed it should work without any intervention.

And/or you might also try a save file instead of the SD card.
 
Old 01-08-2010, 01:46 PM   #5
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I appreciate the help. This is what shows up:
lo 0.00MiB 0.00Mib 127.0.0.1
eth0 0.00Mib 0.00Mib

At the moment it isn't cable connected to the internet. The cable internet connection works OK. The wireless light is on, but is not switched by Fn+F2

After poking around the Debian site
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/H...497ad2e6bf2910
I found this:
"Once you get to the network section of the installer you should be presented with two devices to chose from. eth0 is your ethernet and ath0 or ra0 are your wireless devices. Currently for 701, (but not 701SD,) 900, 900A and 901GO users, either open/wep/wpa are options for installing. For users with ra0, (901, 1000, 1000HD,) wep is known not to work, but wpa may work depending on your access point."

Apparently the 701SD, which is my model, is different from other 701s with respect to the wireless operation.
 
Old 01-08-2010, 04:00 PM   #6
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IIUC Puppeee is said to work with 701SD.

I only own full size computers (5) myself so can’t confirm or deny. If I get donor I would begin documentation in earnest.

EDIT: Audience (unrelated to this thread): I thought it appropriate to add a success story since many posts here are from people wanting to know why “thus and such” works in distro “X” and not in Puppy Linux. My wife and I each own an Acer Aspire 5517. Both are fully functional with Puppy Linux and supremely fast!

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Old 01-08-2010, 07:18 PM   #7
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Thanks for the effort. I'm learning through the process. If I can get Xandros to work with the amateur radio software I'm hoping to use then I could stay with it. While exploring Puppy on my 701SD I also found that I could only adjust one of the sound mixer levels that pop-up when the speaker is clicked. The speaker volume control also mis-behaved and was adjustable then it locked up at 73% and the slider control always returned to the bottom but the level setting didn't change.

In the meantime I've successfully upgraded the BIOS to the latest 8.02 without messing up the operation of the original Xandros OS.

I'll leave it for now, maybe I'll see if I can find some Xandros packages of the software that I want on it.
 
Old 03-21-2010, 01:25 AM   #8
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WiFi Asus 900SD and Toshiba A100 centrino core2duo

Quote:
Originally Posted by VE8RT View Post
A search of the Puppy forum didn't help. I've recently aquired an Eee PC 701SD and have Puppy 4.3.1 running from a 2GB SD card. The first significant problem I'm having is getting the wireless connection working. While trying Eeebuntu from a SD card boot I found that it identified the wireless device as an rtl8187SE. Switching back to Puppy I've tried to load the rtl8187 driver, which is described in the driver listing as being for the 8187 and 8187B, but it returns a message that no new devices were found. The wireless light comes on at boot-up, but it isn't working in Puppy.
I recently acquired a Asus eeePC 900SD (512mb ram, 8gb sdd). And I have the same problem as you: it does not find the hardware after I select the proper driver. I tried out a dozen distros at least, and have finally settled on Jolicloud... at least until I can test the new Leeenux 3.0 or 4.0 (2.0 is a slimmed down easypeasy and touchpad control is real bad on that). With such a small SDD, you may not want to install that though. Ever had any luck boooting from a SD card? I haven't... but it could certainly be a place for a second, slow SDD for your data files. Or you might try AntiX... if you're OK with no WPA wireless security; only WEP. Another you may like is GoblinX.

I've also had wireless problems between Puppy and my Toshiba A100, a powerful laptop and a most standard intel wireless chipset.
I had the problem of it not connecting with WPA. They recommended I install the WPA_advocant, if I remember correctly. It didn't help.
I DO remember them mentioning something about them having had a discussion internally, with the guy who was responsible for the part that controls wireless, and being warned that one-version-fits-all may cause problems. I never did get WiFi to work in Puppy for my Toshiba, and at the time, I put Mint back onto it.

I can't help but ask: why wouldn't it have been possible to just have Puppy auto-detect-and-configure like Mint and some other distros? Is it a technical issue, or one of space? I'd gladly pay a space penalty, to have wireless working on all my machines out of the box, with Puppy.

I've had to relegate Puppy to an old Celeron 2.4ghz, 2gb ram, desktop/tower... hooked up wired (ethernet). (I can't find my dlink usb wireless card so I can't comment if that would work or not).
 
Old 03-22-2010, 01:17 AM   #9
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Quote:
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I recently acquired a Asus eeePC 900SD (512mb ram, 8gb sdd). And I have the same problem as you: it does not find the hardware after I select the proper driver. I tried out a dozen distros at least, and have finally settled on Jolicloud... at least until I can test the new Leeenux 3.0 or 4.0 (2.0 is a slimmed down easypeasy and touchpad control is real bad on that).

I looked at Leenux too a couple of months ago but there were problems with it, probably questions about the wireless driver, and when I e-mailed some questions I was told that the newer version would be released shortly. But I haven't tried the new version yet.

With such a small SDD, you may not want to install that though. Ever had any luck boooting from a SD card? I haven't... but it could certainly be a place for a second, slow SDD for your data files.

There was something about the BIOS setup, but yes, I have been able to boot anything I wanted from the SD card, in fact none of the operating systems I've tried have been installed to the SSD. That was a problem with EEbuntu as it didn't want to write to the SSD card as the primary drive, so far everything else did.

Or you might try AntiX... if you're OK with no WPA wireless security; only WEP. Another you may like is GoblinX.

I've also had wireless problems between Puppy and my Toshiba A100, a powerful laptop and a most standard intel wireless chipset.
I had the problem of it not connecting with WPA. They recommended I install the WPA_advocant, if I remember correctly. It didn't help.
I DO remember them mentioning something about them having had a discussion internally, with the guy who was responsible for the part that controls wireless, and being warned that one-version-fits-all may cause problems. I never did get WiFi to work in Puppy for my Toshiba, and at the time, I put Mint back onto it.

I can't help but ask: why wouldn't it have been possible to just have Puppy auto-detect-and-configure like Mint and some other distros? Is it a technical issue, or one of space? I'd gladly pay a space penalty, to have wireless working on all my machines out of the box, with Puppy.

That would be nice, in many other respects its a very easy operating system to install and work with.

I've had to relegate Puppy to an old Celeron 2.4ghz, 2gb ram, desktop/tower... hooked up wired (ethernet). (I can't find my dlink usb wireless card so I can't comment if that would work or not).
Puppy is installed on my mini-ITX machine, in which I'm using a 4GB flash drive for the hard drive. It doesn't have wireless, yet, so thats not an issue. It was supposed to be a special projects computer for amateur radio software. Its been on the shelf for a while, I should get back to it soon.

Thanks for posting your experiences. At the moment I have some of the software working on the extended Xandros and haven't looked too much further.

Ron
 
Old 03-23-2010, 06:23 AM   #10
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Timmi, wpa does work in antiX. You may be having a problem with wicd (if you use it). Try setting wireless with wpa using ceni (installed)
 
Old 03-24-2010, 01:17 AM   #11
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Timmi, wpa does work in antiX. You may be having a problem with wicd (if you use it). Try setting wireless with wpa using ceni (installed)
Ceni? I looked through the menus and followed pretty much everything that was supposed to be done... and only WEP was available in the menus. Read some threads to that effect, so I never looked further. I'll investigate ceni, and see how it can be installed, if I try AntiX again. Thanks for the tip.

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Old 04-21-2010, 06:30 PM   #12
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Wink Eee PC 701SD Wireless Pets

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A search of the Puppy forum didn't help. I've recently aquired an Eee PC 701SD and have Puppy 4.3.1 running from a 2GB SD card. The first significant problem I'm having is getting the wireless connection working. While trying Eeebuntu from a SD card boot I found that it identified the wireless device as an rtl8187SE. Switching back to Puppy I've tried to load the rtl8187 driver, which is described in the driver listing as being for the 8187 and 8187B, but it returns a message that no new devices were found. The wireless light comes on at boot-up, but it isn't working in Puppy.

My experience level is very low, its not often that I'm working on, versus working with, an operating system.

Ron.T

Hi Ron. T

The Eee701SDs cannot use the standard pet for their internal wireless cards. So 4.3.1 does not come standard with it. I'm sure the next puppy will though.

However in the meantime here is the link for what you need.

Install it and then reboot and Puppy will then be able to find your wireless card.




http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/vie...=346449#346449


The 701Sds tend to use different wireless modules however you will find the one you want in this link.

I have used the RTL8187Se pet and it works very well for me. Just make sure you install the correct one for your Eee.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Kazzamozz
 
Old 04-23-2010, 09:41 PM   #13
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Quote:
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A search of the Puppy forum didn't help. I've recently aquired an Eee PC 701SD and have Puppy 4.3.1 running from a 2GB SD card. The first significant problem I'm having is getting the wireless connection working. While trying Eeebuntu from a SD card boot I found that it identified the wireless device as an rtl8187SE. Switching back to Puppy I've tried to load the rtl8187 driver, which is described in the driver listing as being for the 8187 and 8187B, but it returns a message that no new devices were found. The wireless light comes on at boot-up, but it isn't working in Puppy.
My experience level is very low, its not often that I'm working on, versus working with, an operating system. Ron.T
I've come a ways since starting to post in here, and so have some distros.

Ron, one of the most regarded and competent Puppy users in the forums, Jemima, created Puppeee.

Puppy was designed for old computers, not modern netbooks, and the wifi which was somewhat of an afterthought wasn't a very el;egant backwards fix, that got put into Puppy. With the netbook that you have, don't waste your time with it. Go straight to Puppeee, PepperMint, or when it is respun and stable, TinyMe2010.

Those of you who try these, report back and spread the word. These developers truly deserve we inform others of the fruit of their efforts.

Here are some screenshots http://puppeee.com/web/screenshots/

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Old 08-19-2010, 12:10 AM   #14
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VE8RT, I've got the same netbook you have, but mine has a larger ssd on it(8gb). You can try out Lucid Puppy 5.01, which has the wifi drivers built-in out-of-box, so to speak. I installed and booted up with wifi and ethernet both working. There is a setup icon for internet adapters on the lower-left of the screen, above the menu button on mine for this. I did a full install on mine. By the way, the afu-knoppix ham distro also works on some of these netbooks, as does the DigiPup, ShackBox Linux, and HamFreeSBIE. All of these work to varying degrees, depending on which particular netbook you have. Just something else to look into if you continue to have problems. I can't say whether any of these other distros will work with our wifi though, as I never tested that on them.

I can't recall how well PuppEee did on mine, but I still upgraded after trying it out. Both it and Lucid work in a 2gb partition without a separate swap partition. Wifi worked like a charm in Lucid, and I may still install the fldigi pet, which is not available in the package manager, but it is available if you google "fldigi pet" and look through the links. Download it and when prompted, use the PETGET manager to download/install it.

73 de kc8lcy

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Old 08-20-2010, 08:38 AM   #15
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I can attest to that. Puppeee is at version 1.0 now. The developper, Jemimah, personally owns a 700 series netbook. The install is a bit tricky, you just have to know what to choose, because a generic puppy installer is used, but once you get it onto your system, it works like a charm. I have a 900SD, in case any of you have that.
 
  


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