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Old 02-14-2010, 12:58 PM   #16
Wu2wei
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It escapes me, why you feel compelled to turn this into a pissing contest, puppyite. I did nothing to attack you or your comments. I simply offered an approach different from yours.

But when I read this over at murgalinux...

Late last year we went through a lot of turmoil
on this forum with a certain individual called
puppyite and, whilst all the free speech folk were
defending his right to insult all and sundry here,
some sane and important folk such as caneri got
sick of it all and walked away. He (puppyite)
eventually got banned but managed to cause a
great deal of disruption by not being
told to behave in an adult way earlier on.


...it fits a pattern. Let's leave it at that.
Over and out.
 
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Old 02-14-2010, 02:13 PM   #17
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It was apparent to me that the OP was new to Puppy Linux which is why I wrote an article addressing the problem of how to restore desktop icons. To accomplish this goal I documented a method that was both easy and at the same time returned the OS to itís original condition.

Desktop icons are composed of two parts, a script and a graphic. While dragging a script from /usr/share/applications will restore the functionality of a desktop icon it will not restore the graphic that was originally associated with it. This is why I recommend a method would that would simultaneously restore the desktop iconís functionality and the associated graphic with one single step. By my reckoning one step is "easier" than two steps.

As an aside, if anyone has taken anything I have said here personally they have misinterpreted my words. This is not an apology, it is a statement of fact.
 
Old 02-14-2010, 08:43 PM   #18
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I spent more than an hour on "Puppyites definitive faq" and couldn't find
anything related to the missing icon question.
Even the demonstration desktop didn't show what happens when you right click
a desktop icon.

Right clicking on different desktop icons shows different locations for
different icons.
The person who loses a desktop icon cannot then click on the missing icon to find
its' location.
 
Old 02-14-2010, 10:45 PM   #19
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OK, this one is for you. Open the file manager, and navigate to /usr/local/bin.
There you will find a number of files that start with the word default.
All the original desktop files are there.
Just drag and drop the ones you removed to the desktop.
And you will not have to set icon on them either.

For applications in the Puppy menu, look in /usr/share/applications for a desktop file.
That is where files are placed to have them appear in the menu.
A restart of JWM (Joes Window Manager) is required after typing "fixmenus"
in a terminal for refresh of Menu items.

Last edited by 8-bit; 02-15-2010 at 02:57 PM. Reason: Wrong directory tree
 
Old 02-15-2010, 08:04 AM   #20
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I can lead a horse to water but that's all!

Bobbio,
I repeatedly gave the link to my article on the Puppy Linux FAQ that describes the exact location of all default desktop icons. Since you are unable to follow links I have posted the exact same information below:

ROX-Filer
/usr/local/bin/rox
Help

/usr/sbin/puppyhelp
Pmount:
/usr/sbin/pmount
Install
/usr/sbin/dotpup
Puppy Setup Center
/usr/sbin/wizardwizard
GeanyIDE
/usr/local/bin/defaulttexteditor
Rxvt
/usrbin/rxvt
Abiword
/usr/local/bin/defaultwordprocessor
Gnumeric
/usr/local/bin/defaultspreadsheet
mtPaint
/usr/local/bin/defaultpaint
InkscapeLite
/usr/local/bin/defaultdraw
SeaMonkey
/usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser
SeaMonkey Email

/usr/local/bin/mozmail
Ayttm

/usr/local/bin/defaultchat
Osmo
/usr/local/bin/defaultcalendar
Gxine
/usr/local/bin/defaultmediaplayer
Internet Connection Wizard
/usr/local/apps/Connect
Xlock
/usr/local/apps/Xlock
Xarchive

/usr/local/apps/pupZip
Trash
/usr/local/apps/Trash
If you compare the above information to my article on the Puppy Linux FAQ about how to restore desktop icons you will see that it is identical. UGH!
 
Old 02-15-2010, 10:57 AM   #21
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Puppyite;

I'm well aware of the location of puppies icons; have been for years.

Any one that happens across your faq page without knowing about the links
you posted here at LQO is not likely to find things quite so easily.
 
Old 02-15-2010, 11:17 AM   #22
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maybe puppyite is a pitbull in love with puppylinux???

sure seems that way to this slightly embarrassed
puppy user...he is so determined to be helpful that
it hurts, however, think how rarely such a pure
fanatic can be closely observed in the context
of a mellow setting such as puppy and its pals.

given that people can build individual operating
systems for their gear and needs his insistence
that puppy is the best os is ridiculous, and his
tone is often offensive, for none can come near his standard of devotion to his chosen one.

oh well, more important to say, please do not be
put off puppy by his shenanigans; as this thread
shows there are others willing and able to offer
useful answers which do not need to be clicked on
to be found, read and tried.

cheers, mm

Last edited by mmrr; 02-15-2010 at 11:21 AM.
 
Old 02-15-2010, 01:45 PM   #23
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Bobbio,
Sorry you couldn’t find what you needed at my site, many (most) people do.

Last edited by puppyite; 02-15-2010 at 02:49 PM.
 
Old 02-15-2010, 02:27 PM   #24
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I feed troll, even though I know better

mmrr,
Since the beginning of this month the Puppy Linux FAQ has been visited 16,520 times. The daily average of page hits stands at 1032 hits per day. Many people have extended congratulations and sincere thanks for the help I've given them. Iím very proud of the help I provide to Puppy Linux users. If I ever learn to mind read I may even be able to help people like yourself so you can avoid the tedious task of clicking links and reading.
 
Old 02-15-2010, 05:03 PM   #25
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puppyite,

a few days ago, i came across yr site, saw that it was useful and was glad
that you had found a way to support puppy that worked for you and others,
because the previous events i'd witnessed on the puppy [murga-linux] forum
troubled me, for i saw my pride and stubborness in yr posts; i'm happy to
see some more moderate expressions of yr undoubted expertise here.

it is a fact, however, that an answer in thread is a magnitude more useful
than an answer in a link: for one thing, links do not always work, they
depend on the browser displaying so the possible novice can read the link-item.

sometimes a link is a smart footnote, nearly always it is smarter if there is a bit of
explanation as to why it is given. as a general rule, answer in thread is
more useful, hence preferable. it is not about laziness nor unwillingness to read

cheers, mm
 
Old 02-16-2010, 09:15 AM   #26
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mm,
I see no reason why I should care whether youíre happy or not. Your approval is not something I relish. Doubtless you will take that as confirmation of your assumptions.

Hypertext links are a fundamental part of the Internet. By linking to an article on the Puppy Linux FAQ I avoid having to rewrite it here. Sometimes as in the case of the OP I wrote an article to specifically address his need (or others with similar problem).

If you are a regular of the forum you mentioned you should be aware of many instances where people answer by giving bare link to other forum posts or resources. Of course some may, if they choose opt to write out an answer, either is suitable

This post is so radically different from your first it appears you have multiple personalities. In future I recommend you adopt a more consistent tone but do as you please.
 
Old 02-18-2010, 09:59 AM   #27
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I stumbled into this because of a report that was filed..

I suggest that all parties stop the personal attacks---NOW.

Quote:
I don't worry about what other people think, they rarely ever do.
Not good....
 
Old 02-19-2010, 06:02 AM   #28
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hey hey guys remember me? the newbie who innocently deleted an icon...which can safely be done on ubuntu, LM, debian, windows, mac and probably a bunch of others.
Maybe the most important thing is to support each other and take your arguments to the appropriate thread.
because reading all this stuff does not cause me to really benefit, just turns to bad mouthing the forum for supporting this kind of postings. And therefore not getting friends and colleagues into the OS, as i have converted 17 people to Ubuntu. Turning the world towards open source concept requires appropriate unity. That is why the corporate controlled world steam rollers over free thinkers.
 
Old 02-19-2010, 08:12 AM   #29
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Speaking for myself only I feel it is regrettable that there has been any type of disagreement outside of the OT.

My purpose here is to introduce, assist or if possible convert people from Windows (or other OS) to Puppy Linux. I am proud to say the Puppy Linux FAQ has been and is instrumental in achieving that goal.
 
Old 02-22-2010, 01:10 PM   #30
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apologies, darrin, puppyite,
thanks for timely intervention, pixellany.
cheers all, mm
 
  


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