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Old 04-27-2014, 03:29 PM   #1
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Creating non-root user account


I could use some help in setting up a non-root account for Puppy Slacko 5.6.0

I also looked at setting up a firewall.

Right now, just secure shell is checked off.

Thanks.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 05:16 PM   #2
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I'd suggest reading the page below at the Puppy site which basically explains that it is not a multi-user system.

http://puppylinux.com/technical/root.htm
 
Old 04-27-2014, 07:38 PM   #3
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Thanks, I read a number of articles.

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Old 04-28-2014, 09:12 PM   #4
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Reading the article does not say it is NOT a multi user system.

Wake up guys.

Puppy has a firewall program, so I figure no one uses it ??

Andy
 
Old 04-28-2014, 09:35 PM   #5
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What use would be a firewall on a system where everything runs as root?
 
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1. For Firewall simply run from set-up linux-firewall wizard.
2. Simply use Fido and Spot as described in the article for non-root use.

As for this never run as root business it is a load of rot. I have run various Pups for many years with firewall enabled and I am careful about how I run my system and where I visit on the web and to be quite frank running is as non-root is not going to protect you from every thing script-wise.

Basically security is down to the end-user period.

Further more this guy asked a simple question and it deserved a good simple polite answer.
 
Old 04-28-2014, 10:25 PM   #7
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Reading the article does not say it is NOT a multi user system.
If you are referring to the link I posted to the Puppy site, you must not have seen the quote below from that site:

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Puppy is not a multi-user system as are most other Linux distributions, in which there is a root login plus any number of non-root login accounts.
That would have required you to read all the way down to the second paragraph!!
 
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What use would be a firewall on a system where everything runs as root?
I guess I did not post that my previous O.S. is Windows.

Puppy Slacko 5.6.0 offers a firewall, so I assume it has a benefit.

Andy
 
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1. For Firewall simply run from set-up linux-firewall wizard.
2. Simply use Fido and Spot as described in the article for non-root use.

As for this never run as root business it is a load of rot. I have run various Pups for many years with firewall enabled and I am careful about how I run my system and where I visit on the web and to be quite frank running is as non-root is not going to protect you from every thing script-wise.

Basically security is down to the end-user period.

Further more this guy asked a simple question and it deserved a good simple polite answer.
Thanks.

I have gotten hardened to a few Linux users having a somewhat less than positive attitude. :-)

Take care,
Andy
 
Old 04-28-2014, 10:43 PM   #10
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As for this never run as root business it is a load of rot. I have run various Pups for many years with firewall enabled and I am careful about how I run my system and where I visit on the web and to be quite frank running is as non-root is not going to protect you from every thing script-wise.

Basically security is down to the end-user period.
Ah, and I guess basic and approved principles of security, like the principle of least privileges do simply not apply to Puppy.
 
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Ah, and I guess basic and approved principles of security, like the principle of least privileges do simply not apply to Puppy.
German is a little different than English.

principle of least privilges do not apply to Puppy Slacko.

No offense intended, but I feel that you are negative.

I am half German.

Meine Mutter war in Hannover Deutschland im Jahr 1929 geboren.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:18 AM   #12
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German is a little different than English.

principle of least privilges do not apply to Puppy Slacko.
Principle of least privileges apply to any OS. If the Puppy developers think they don't need to implement it then you shouldn't use it for anything that needs to have at least a bit of security, simple as that.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 12:27 AM   #13
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Is that your story and you are sticking to it. ?? :-)

Andy

Your responses have brought many smiles to me. :-)

No problem, my mother is also prideful and stubborn.
 
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Sorry if I sound harsh, but I am just fed up with the discussion that comes up every so often about running your system as root, where people argue "It is OK to run your system as root because of $ANECDOTAL_EVIDENCE", while every security expert on this planet disagrees with them. This has nothing to do with being prideful or stubborn.

So, yes, that is my story and I am sticking to it.
 
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Thanks.

I have gotten hardened to a few Linux users having a somewhat less than positive attitude. :-)

Take care,
Andy
I wish you well Andy - Slacko is pretty cool.
 
  


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