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Old 02-12-2011, 05:37 PM   #1
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Couple of problems with 4.12


The title is supposed to say 2.14 not 4.12....my bad.

I can't get google chrome to work. I've downloaded it from this page http://www.wisdom-seekers.com/puppy214x.html But when I click the icon that is now in the menu it does nothing. I have also tried to uninstall it from the petget manager but it won't uninstall either...weird huh? What needs to be done here?

Also, what is this dodad on the panel do? On my machine it does nothing and I can't click on it or anything....see screen shot of the dodad.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:49 AM   #2
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Hi Indy,

I have 214x on another machine, which I can't access before Monday, at the earliest.
Therefore I am just assuming here:

Did you read the relevant post on page 260? To be accessed from the link you are quoting. It sounds like a problem with a dependency.

More on Monday or Tuesday.
 
Old 02-13-2011, 11:13 PM   #3
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Hi Indy,

I have 214x on another machine, which I can't access before Monday, at the earliest.
Therefore I am just assuming here:

Did you read the relevant post on page 260? To be accessed from the link you are quoting. It sounds like a problem with a dependency.

More on Monday or Tuesday.
That was my guess as well...I decided to trash the install and start over since I screwed some other stuff up as well.

I have re-installed 2.14x and I have come to terms with the fact this is one of only a few distros that will run on this old laptop....I like 2.14x but the firefox browser is just too much for this machine to handle. I really need to be using either Midori, xxxterm, or seamonkey on this. Only problem is when I go to get seamonkey from the petget it fails from each of the listed mirrors. If I try to get Opera it downloads and says it installs but its never in the menus and I can't find a "run" app. Chrome is a lost cause....I give up on that idea.

So, If anyone knows how I can effectively fetch either , Midori, xxxterm or seamonkey please tell me how because essentially all I'm gonna be doing is some web browsing with this machine.

Thanks...
 
Old 02-13-2011, 11:40 PM   #4
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First, describe the specifications of the computer you are installing on and if you are doing a frugal or full install.
As to specifications, I am talking about processor speed, amount of memory installed, and drive size.
Also, in case of small amount of memory, have you set up a swap partition.
And...
When you install a browser, look in /usr/share/applications and see if the browser you installed is listed. If so, open that with geany and see what command is used to start the browser.
Then, open a terminal, (rxvt), and type in the name and hit enter.
Note any messages about missing dependencies.

I also understand that puppy lupu 520 may work well with older hardware and limited ram.

And ...
If you have trouble with a CD booting, try using a kernel parameter of "puppy pfix=noacpi.
 
Old 02-14-2011, 07:52 AM   #5
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8 bits advice is very good.
Look into /usr/share/applications for the opera starter and do check it in the terminal.

To set up a swap partition you'd have to do this from the LiveCD, not from an installed system. With gparted create a swap about double the size of your RAM at the end of an existing disk. That will help with Firefox tremendously.

Plus, you don't necessarily have to use a pet for any of the browsers you mentioned. Just get a tar.gz package from the browser's site
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.0.11
http://midori.en.malavida.com/linux/

Unpack the archive to /mnt/home, drag the executable to the desktop, but do the first start in the terminal. You'll see right away if it is working.
I haven't tried the others, but FF works that way in 214x.
Should you have any problem, you might want to read this
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45030

And BTW, a frugal install of the system is recommended over a full HD install.

Grub entry for a frugal install on a Linux partition would be something along this example:

Quote:
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Puppy 214X Frugal-ext3 (on /dev/hdb2)
rootnoverify (hd1,1)/214
kernel (hd1,1)/214/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=atahd PDEV1=hdb2 PUPMODE=12 SFSFILE=ext3,hdb2,/214/pup_214X.sfs ZDRV=ext3,hdb2,/214/zdrv_214X.sfs PUPSAVE=ext3,hdb2,/214/pup_save-214.3fs acpi=force
initrd (hd1,1)/214/initrd.gz
# Linux bootable partition config ends
For a frugal install on a linux partition you'd need to go to Menu-System-Grub bootloader config. There choose "simple" and later "MBR".

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Old 02-14-2011, 07:58 AM   #6
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I don't have any problems running any version of puppy other than the newer ones don't see a hd installed as the older ones do,4.2 on back.

The machine I'm playing with has been a challenge but shouldn't be IMO....Its an IBM A20P 700mhz PIII with 256mhz ram and a 30GB hd with resolution at a whopping 1400x1050.....pretty kicking for a 10 y/o machine! I have formatted the HD with 512mb linux swap and the rest as Puppy 2.14x ext3 file system. Uses an pcmcia Proxim wireless card using Atheros chip and I use WPA2 encryption here at home. So far Puppy 2.14x recognizes all this....only problem is it must be getting old and outdated or something because the mirrors for the petgets are half assed and some work some don't. I don't care about a new kernel and the latest software etc.. but I must have a newer secure browser...one that's up to date.....thats all I ask.

The Puppy 5.o for older hardware is great but I can't install it to my hd because its not seen by puppy or gparted or the universal installer etc.....I don't understand why. I wish I knew but I don't.

I've tried about twenty different distros on this machine the past week and only a few will work....Puppy 4.2 on back, Archbang and something else but I can't remember but it was too heavy. The resolution is one that is a distro killer....most I have tried I had to force Xvesa on it to identify the high resolution.

Anyway....thats it in a nutshell.

If you have some suggestions for installing a lightweight browser I'm all ears.
 
Old 02-14-2011, 08:11 AM   #7
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8 bits advice is very good.
Look into /usr/share/applications for the opera starter and do check it in the terminal.

To set up a swap partition you'd have to do this from the LiveCD, not from an installed system. Create a swap about double the size of your RAM at the end of an existing partition. That will help with Firefox tremendously.

Plus, you don't necessarily have to use a pet for any of the browsers you mentioned. Just get a tar.gz package from the browser's site
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.0.11
http://midori.en.malavida.com/linux/

Unpack the archive to /mnt/home, drag the executable to the desktop, but do the first start in the terminal. You'll see right away if it is working.
I haven't tried the others, but FF works that way in 214x.

And BTW, a frugal install of the system is recommended over a full HD install.

Grub entry for a frugal install on a Linux partition would be something along this example:

Thanks, I'll try this....Must have posted while I was writing the last post from me...

So putting a swap at the end of my main patition would be better for ff? I have my swap at the beginning.

I did a full install....I'm new to puppy so I didn't understand which one I should do. oh well....I can always re-do all this again.
 
Old 02-14-2011, 09:43 AM   #8
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So putting a swap at the end of my main patition would be better for ff? I have my swap at the beginning.
It's not that important if you have only one linux partition and one swap partition.

If all works well with your full install, that's fine, too. Especially if you don't want to update or upgrade the install.

For a frugal install, you'd better partition appr. this way:

1. A linux ext3, size about 2 GB for each Puppy you want to install frugally plus 2GB for other programs. So for 3 Puppies you'd want 8GB, for 1 Puppy maybe 4 to 5 GB.
2. Next one or two partitions for your data. Can be ext 2/3, FAT, NTFS, as you wish.
3. Swap of 512MB at the end.

Keep in mind, though, that you can't have more than 4 primary partitions. If you need more, than item #2 here should be one extended partition, divided in as many logical partitions as you may wish.

Now, let's assume you have created one 5GB ext3 partition (hda1), one more primary partition 34.5 GB (hda2)and one swap 512MB (hda3); all with gparted from the LiveCD.
Next still in the CD, setup grub to hda1 using the program Grub Bootloader config.
Now copy from the mounted ISO 4 files to hda1 into a new directory "214": initrd.gz, pup_214x.sfs, vmlinuz, zdrv_214X.sfs.
Then open /boot/grub/menu.lst and add the grub stanza I gave you above. Change it to hda1, where applicable.

Then reboot from the CD without saving and you should see the grub splash screen, and the system should boot.
Setup your 214x to your requirements and reboot again, this time saving to a pupsave file in the directory 214.
Once the pupsave file is all setup to your liking do make a copy onto hda2 as a backup.

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