Good IDE in linux, where are they??

adymo · 04-02-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by nazdrowie
Why is everybody so caught up with IDEs anyways? To me they're mostly hype. You can do all of what you mentioned with the exception of drag-and-drop gui design with an editor like VIM, which totally rocks; and the more you learn about VIM, the more it rocks. I must admit there's a learning curve to VIM though, as is the case with anything worth learning
Just cause I'm curious: are there any IDEs that actually let the programmer move about the text being edited with the same ease as in VIM? or do they pretty much limit you to moving around with the cursor keys and a character at a time?

I don't think IDE and VIM are exclusive options for a developer. You can easily have both - a vim-like editor inside an IDE. I personally start using Kyzis editor inside KDevelop more and more frequently.
See www.yzis.org for more information about Yzis editor and its KDE frontend Kyzis.
Note: use only KDevelop > 3.2 and the most recent version of yzis together.

adymo · 04-02-2005, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by TruongAn
KDE neither supports auto word complete,

You probably mean "KDevelop", not "KDE", yes?
Wrong, look at Project -> Project Options -> C++ Specific -> Code Completion. Add your favourite libraries for code completion using "Add" button. Symbols in the project are completed automatically.

Abreviations and arbitrary word completions can be configured in Settings -> Configure KDevelop -> Abbreviations.

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nor object browse.

What is object browse? Class and symbol viewer? Use "Classes" button on the left in KDevelop.

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It supports more languages
than needed

It's a matter of taste. With KDevelop 3.2 you can run restricted versions of KDevelop. For example, only C/C++ IDE, only Ruby IDE, etc.

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but it don't include documentation
for those language

KDevelop can not include documentation for all supported languages. We neither have resources to track down the docs nor to package them.
But we _do_ have links to the online docs for most languages.
Also local developer documentation (KDE, GTK, GNOME, Qt) is always picked and used.
Run kdevassistant (KDevelop Assistant) and take a look.

adymo · 04-02-2005, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by al_periodical
Borland Kylix might be the better IDE for linux
supports pascal and C++
Generally works,functions and performs the same as IDEs in MS windows though there are some differences in the availablelity of visual or non-visual components between the free and comercial editions of Kylix.
The download size of the Open Kylix (the free edition one) is around 90mb and you might need a fast PC( ?at least a P4,526mb ram?)if you want fast IDE performance.

Yes, Kylix runs (in wine emulator btw

). But have you tried to develop something with it? What kind of functionality for a developer it has? Ten visual components and integrated designer to layout them?! CLX library which is an incomplete wrapper to an ancient Qt 2.x version? Even if you have enterprise version, what functionality you have in Kylix that you don't have in Eclipse and KDevelop?

Nad0xFF · 04-03-2005, 01:13 AM

2 years ago I wanted to start program for Linux (I'm C and C++ programmer) but that time I've found KDevelop worse, than MS Visual Studio 6.0. From that time I've been using Visual studio, and if I need write program for Linux I write it in KWrite. Now I hope KDevlelop became more good (but I've not seen it yet) and I want swith to linux

TruongAn · 04-03-2005, 03:48 AM

To Adymo.

I 've seeked for the features you said.
But these features is not good enough.

Code completement doesn't include neither variable name
It neither list my variable and built-in function.

And by the way adymo, recently I cann't access
kdevelop home page, what is happening

alred · 04-03-2005, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by adymo
Ten visual components and integrated designer to layout them?! CLX library which is an incomplete wrapper to an ancient Qt 2.x version? Even if you have enterprise version, what functionality you have in Kylix that you don't have in Eclipse and KDevelop?

????

:: IMPORTANT : i don't speak on behalf of Borland Developers,not even as a developer of any major IDE like KDevelop, Eclipse or Kylix ....etc. i speak like an end user

skie_knite007 · 04-03-2005, 10:37 AM

Anjuta is pretty good...............

Try it
www.anjuta.org

adymo · 04-03-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by TruongAn
I 've seeked for the features you said.
But these features is not good enough.

You should probably elaborate on this.

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Code completement doesn't include neither variable name
It neither list my variable and built-in function.

Please send me a test case and specify what exactly doesn't work.

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And by the way adymo, recently I cann't access
kdevelop home page, what is happening

Don't know. It's online atm.

enemorales · 04-04-2005, 05:04 AM

I don't know why, but between learning

- about the language and libraries I'm using for coding, and
- how to use these monolitic IDEs there are around

I prefer the former.

And there is the keyword: PREFER.

Anyway, about the original question, Eclipse looks very nice to me, in the sense that I think it can help without spending so much in learning how to use it. However I've to say that apart from emacs and vim, it is the only one I've tried

Hope this helps...

ae6gn · 04-04-2005, 02:16 PM

I use KDE Kate for writing code, great syntax check/highlighting list (more than 30 languages ), that is all I need

TruongAn · 06-12-2005, 03:52 AM

This thread talk about IDE, so don't
say anymore that you don't need IDE
and you can do anything without such tools,
I 've known you are as good as god.

enemorales · 06-12-2005, 12:42 PM

Well, as I said: Eclipse is a very good one.

redwing26 · 02-19-2006, 02:27 PM

can someone tell me where I can get an ide for assembly language ? .....not some console based one ....I was looking for one with colour coding indenting relevant to at&t syntax?

Ive been on numerous other forums but got no answer :-( at a last resort(although im reluctant to start this when i just want to write .s assembly files) where can i get an app where I can write my own colour coding that is graphical , easy to use ?

redwing

Randux · 06-15-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by redwing26

can someone tell me where I can get an ide for assembly language ? .....not some console based one ....I was looking for one with colour coding indenting relevant to at&t syntax?

Ive been on numerous other forums but got no answer :-( at a last resort(although im reluctant to start this when i just want to write .s assembly files) where can i get an app where I can write my own colour coding that is graphical , easy to use ?

redwing

Emacs has a built-in (provided) assembler mode. I'm guessing it's for x86 but I have no idea. I just created a test.asm and Emacs went into the "right" mode.

When you talk about assembly language, you need to say which one. HLLs are all relatively the same, but assemblers are different for every processor (yeah I know: nasm, blah, blah, blah).

If you know lisp you can modify the supplied mode or write your own for Emacs.

This all may be meaningless if you're not checking this thread 4 months later