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Old 07-21-2010, 09:08 AM   #1
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I have started working for this small business company ( consulting not an actual new job I still work for my old company ). In going through their infrastructure I come across their phone system and this is where my hell beings.

They are running a old ( VERY OLD) phone system ( AT&T System 25) which run off of unix. The computer they are running this machine is back from the 95 ( maybe older). They have 0 backups of any configuration's or any backup computers. So here is my delima.

I want to ghost this hard drive ( in case of failure) and be able to move it to a newer machine. But I know I will run into a hardware issue. Is there any way of being able to ghost this hard drive and use some utility to import this hard drive to work with a current computer as opposed to the old one? If this old machine goes out then what options besides implementing a new system would I have?

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Old 07-21-2010, 10:05 AM   #2
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I have started working for this small business company ( consulting not an actual new job I still work for my old company ). In going through their infrastructure I come across their phone system and this is where my hell beings.

They are running a old ( VERY OLD) phone system ( AT&T System 25) which run off of unix. The computer they are running this machine is back from the 95 ( maybe older). They have 0 backups of any configuration's or any backup computers. So here is my delima.

I want to ghost this hard drive ( in case of failure) and be able to move it to a newer machine. But I know I will run into a hardware issue. Is there any way of being able to ghost this hard drive and use some utility to import this hard drive to work with a current computer as opposed to the old one? If this old machine goes out then what options besides implementing a new system would I have?

Thanks,
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You're only in hell, because you're choosing to be there.

Phone systems may LOOK like unix...but it's not, and it's definitely NOT Linux, either. That OS is made for that hardware...move it, and it definitely won't work. I've been through the AT&T training, and used to work on PBX's for a living.

Since you're consulting for them, consult....tell them how old it is, and in what a bad spot they're in. Also tell them that it's not a computer, and you're not comfortable touching it, and suggest they get someone who does PBX stuff in to take care of it. Of course, bill them for the hours you've put in looking..... If you want to go the upgrade route, you can implement Asterisk on Linux, and migrate their phones over, and pitch the system25 into the bin.....
 
Old 07-21-2010, 10:07 AM   #3
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I would contact Avaya

http://support.avaya.com/css/P8/documents/100011038
 
Old 07-21-2010, 10:23 AM   #4
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You're only in hell, because you're choosing to be there.

Phone systems may LOOK like unix...but it's not, and it's definitely NOT Linux, either. That OS is made for that hardware...move it, and it definitely won't work. I've been through the AT&T training, and used to work on PBX's for a living.

Since you're consulting for them, consult....tell them how old it is, and in what a bad spot they're in. Also tell them that it's not a computer, and you're not comfortable touching it, and suggest they get someone who does PBX stuff in to take care of it. Of course, bill them for the hours you've put in looking..... If you want to go the upgrade route, you can implement Asterisk on Linux, and migrate their phones over, and pitch the system25 into the bin.....

Thanks for your help. I was looking into Asterisk as I currently run a few Openfire servers here locally. Have you implemented Asterisk before? How long did it take you to configure everything? Thanks again for all your help.
 
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Thanks for your help. I was looking into Asterisk as I currently run a few Openfire servers here locally. Have you implemented Asterisk before? How long did it take you to configure everything? Thanks again for all your help.
Well, that's a tough question. Yes, I've done it before, but know Linux pretty well, and I know phone hardware. It didn't take me long, probably a day or so to get things set up/tweaked, etc., then had to implement (which takes longer).

Shouldn't be too much of a problem. Asterisk is pretty well documented, and if you're running in parallel, you can implement/test/tweak with no real time pressure, or users being without their phones.
 
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I am pretty sure I agree that it is ATT and real unix if it is from 1995. (Ask me how I know that, we still have a few waiting to be scrapped)

You may be able clone it with g4u, which is basically the dd command. You need the entire drive. You usually can only clone it to a similar sized and sometimes has to be same geometry. Now what you do with it may be some issue. It is possible that it may run on a similar 386 or such box if you can find one. It may be possible to make a Virtual machine that would support it.

Simple enough to boot to floppy if it still works. That may also be an issue since ours were old 5 inch floppies I think 300k size. It might be that you can find a basic linux that can load on that enough to dd over to something. Basiclinux may have it. G4U did it across two to three 1.44m floppies because he used at bsd base that supported the kernel being split. If you put the drive in any newer system it would be easier. They may be MFM drives or RLL even so watch out. Be sure to copy every bit of bios settings. Landing zone and such has to be exact.

Be sure those boxes are not motorola processors.

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