MLED needs your vote on Distrowatch

kikinovak · 08-14-2016, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bormant

@kikinovak,
DW shows MLED in "Projects not yet ready" list after voting.
Maybe they wait for any condition other than number of votes?

Distrowatch would consider MLED "ready" if I provided a separate ISO. Here's my take on that:

http://www.microlinux.eu/faq.php#iso

offgridguy · 08-26-2016, 02:09 PM

I added my vote for MLED, unfortunately, I doubt it will change anything at Distrowatch.

Edit; I read your take on the separate iso.

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Why don't you provide a separate ISO?

MLED doesn't aim to be Yet Another Linux Distribution. Its ambition is to be an add-on to Slackware Linux and to provide those packages that are missing for a complete out-of-the-box desktop experience.

The Linux world has a sad history of reinventing the wheel and duplicating efforts, and I don't want to contribute to that. Besides, a separate installation ISO would be a huge waste of bandwidth. All this to save you from typing a handful of commands?

If there was a separate iso though, it would make MLED available to the less experienced users
who want to try Slackware, and give them a taste of Slackware 'improved'.

Philip Lacroix · 10-08-2016, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by offgridguy

If there was a separate iso though, it would make MLED available to the less experienced users who want to try Slackware, and give them a taste of Slackware 'improved'.

Niki provided an answer to that point as well in the FAQs, and I personally find it reasonable and perfectly consistent with the Slackware philosophy:

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While MLED is extremely user-friendly once it's installed, the installation procedure itself requires a bit of Linux knowledge. MLED is based on Slackware, which has never been a hold-your-hand distribution. Think of MLED as "Linux From Slack", or more precisely "Beyond Linux From Slack". If you can't be bothered with reading Slackware's and MLED's detailed documentation, you might be better off using a different distribution like openSUSE or Ubuntu.

I've never installed the MLED add-on, as I don't need it, but I understand that Niki's work is meant to be used, not necessarily installed, by the end-user. In fact, he does the installation and maintenance work for his customers, and MLED was created for them. Besides, providing a complete ISO might divert some of the new (or uninformed) Slackware/MLED users away from the official project, which is not desirable IMHO. Wisely, MLED is a complement, not a replacement.

kikinovak · 10-09-2016, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Philip Lacroix

I've never installed the MLED add-on, as I don't need it, but I understand that Niki's work is meant to be used, not necessarily installed, by the end-user. In fact, he does the installation and maintenance work for his customers, and MLED was created for them. Besides, providing a complete ISO might divert some of the new (or uninformed) Slackware/MLED users away from the official project, which is not desirable IMHO. Wisely, MLED is a complement, not a replacement.

I couldn't have said it better.

Niki

Timothy Miller · 10-09-2016, 01:58 AM

Which, to take nothing from mled, is exactly why I agree with distrowatch that it's not a distro. If mled is considered a distro, then is deb-multimedia also now a distro? Is rpmfusion now a distro? I completely agree that mled, as it is, should NOT be listed as a distro...it's not. It's, as very well said, a complimentary extension to Slackware, not a standalone distribution (and for those that will bring it up, no I don't believe "I put a different desktop wallpaper on Ubuntu" should be a distribution either like 98% of the list seems to be).

kikinovak · 10-10-2016, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Timothy Miller

Which, to take nothing from mled, is exactly why I agree with distrowatch that it's not a distro. If mled is considered a distro, then is deb-multimedia also now a distro? Is rpmfusion now a distro? I completely agree that mled, as it is, should NOT be listed as a distro...it's not. It's, as very well said, a complimentary extension to Slackware, not a standalone distribution (and for those that will bring it up, no I don't believe "I put a different desktop wallpaper on Ubuntu" should be a distribution either like 98% of the list seems to be).

I can only agree with you. Unfortunately these days, "distro" also means "project worth to be mentioned on Distrowatch". It's a bit frustrating to put so much work into this complement to Slackware and not see it listed on DW, and then have another Ubuntu-with-a-different-wallpaper advertised. Although these days, the Arch remixes seem to be more popular. So for now MLED is flying under the radar and remains a confidential project.

Cheers,

Niki