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Old 08-30-2006, 08:33 PM   #1
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Weather Report applet is clearly inaccurate


I don't know what source the Weather Report uses, but I don't think it's very accurate. I'm not sure about the temperatures given, because it's so hot in Arizona that it may well have been 100 degrees around 7 PM last night, as it claimed; but I just looked, and it shows a symbol of rain falling, when a cursory glance out my windows shows it's not raining. It's allegedly not raining anywhere else in the Phoenix area, either. (We're getting a dust storm, but if it's indicating "rain" for that, it rather illustrates my point.) I concluded that this applet is wasting my time, and pulled it.

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Old 08-31-2006, 07:35 AM   #2
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That's because the default weather station is Morgantown W.Va. -- MEPIS' "hometown".

You need to right click on its icon & poke around to point at a station a little closer to you.

I am still using SimplyMEPIS 3.3.2 & I believe the applet has changed, so I cannot offer any specific instructions.
 
Old 08-31-2006, 11:35 PM   #3
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Do you mean I am getting the Morgantown weather, or that my weather is being reported from the Morgantown station? If the former, I was sure I had fixed the problem of the WR being stuck on West Virginia.

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Old 09-01-2006, 12:08 PM   #4
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I was tempted to ask what your last Q meant, as I believe each station only reports its own weather -- your weather couldn't be reported by Morgantown, only Morgantown weather.

In the version of KWeather I have running, a single primary click on its Systray icon brings up a "Weather Report" dialog box that includes the station in the title. Try checking that to see where you have KWeather pointed.
 
Old 09-01-2006, 04:14 PM   #5
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I checked again, and it does say it's pointed at Phoenix, but some of the information is dubious. It says my sunrise is (was) at 9:02 AM--yeah, right. And the sunset is at 9:53 PM? Well, possibly, but I really doubt that. If it's getting such weird information from Sky Harbor Airport, perhaps I shouldn't catch a plane anytime soon.

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Old 09-02-2006, 04:52 AM   #6
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Kweather

I can confirm that the clock function in Kweather seems to be broken. I live in UK, but had (deliberately) set it up for Sydney Australia. I *know* when it is daytime outside!

It is just possible that it is fetching valid weather reports from the selected monitoring station - but from a time not offset to account for the distance between the station and the user's PC.

Nah.. surely not. Thats kind of fundamental - isn't it?
 
Old 09-02-2006, 10:36 AM   #7
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Weather App

I live near Show Low, AZ and although I'm 16 miles to the East the weather app gives appropriate information. To test it I just added Phoenix - Sky Harbor. I get Sunrise 6:03, Sunset 6:52, Temp 89.1 etc... Last observation 7:51. I'm using 6.0 final and I've been using the Weather App since 3.4.3. Check to make sure your time, date, and location is set correctly.
 
Old 09-05-2006, 11:31 AM   #8
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GTrax,

How about some symptoms & settings?

Esp., what leads to your "I *know* when it is daytime outside!" comment?

As for settings, start w/ your BIOS & go on to the "Current time zone:" setting from:

Clock (right click the clock display) >> Adjust Date & Time (root password req.) >> Configure - Date & Time

In my case, my BIOS is set to UTC & my Current time zone to CDT (U.S. Central Daylight Time) & everything is fine.

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Just for grins I temporarily set KWeather to various other places:

1st, Barre, VT (U.S. Eastern Time) -- everything looked good, if the Sunrise/Sunset times are in CDT not EDT.

Next, Aberdeen, UK -- again everything looked good, & the Sunrise/Sunset times are definitely in (US)CDT not Aberdeen local time.

Then Sydney (YSSY), & sure enough the moon icon appeared in my Panel, but the Sunrise/Sunset times indicated 20h 40m of daylight. This has got to be wrong -- it's too near the equinox.

I tried various other other-side-of-the-world stations -- Alice Springs, Auckland Airport, Jessore (Bangladesh), & noticed that all were reporting sunrise times of exactly 6am, but sunset times in the 1am to 7am range which are reasonable Houston times.

To say the least, something is wrong.


Any of you in OZ etc. experiencing the same problem?

To help test:
Houston Int'l == KIAH
Tuesday 05 September 2006
Sunrise: 7:00 am Sunset: 7:39 pm

CDT = -0500
Sunrise: 7:00 am = 12:00 UTC
Sunset: 7:39 pm = 00:39 UTC tomorrow
 
Old 09-10-2006, 02:16 AM   #9
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Unhappy kweather

yeah,
i just set up mepis 6 on a work mates machine its side by side with my machine also running mepis 6 the weather app works fine on my machine but on my workmates the sunrise sunset times are both about 6 am ish ? Sydney airport i carnt fathom it ,all the time settings appear to be correct but i havent had enough spare time to check it out properly
 
Old 09-11-2006, 03:20 AM   #10
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KWeather anomaly

Hi archtoad6 and flyereddie

My family live about 40km NorthWest of Sydney, and I use Googletalk VOIP several times a week to chat with them. I have to be very aware of the time there. I had the Time/Date utility in the corner set to show Sydney as well as local. My PC hardware clock is set to UTC, and the Mepis 6.0 (Debian/Ubuntu) setup corrects for the +1hour BST automatically. I use it for satellite tracking, so I don't think I fumbled anything there.

There are no weather stations near me, so I settled for including Boscombe Down, Heathrow Airport, Southhampton - and Sydney, and I would keep Sydney up most of the time. At first I was impressed, it seemed good, until I noticed that it was showing me a blacked out moon in Sydney when the UK local time was past midnight. I did not go to the extent of confirming reported sunrise and sunset times.

Then, I installed a Firefox extension that lifts a corner popup showing the real-time weather condition in Sydney. They were so clearly in disagreement, I then dumped KWeather.

I felt a little bad about it because I respect the skill and time and effort it took the guys who program KWeather to put it together, and I don't have the smarts to help repair it. It is a fine panel feature for folk who want or need to know the weather conditions elsewhere. There is not much point setting it for near home - you can just look out of the window!

I will put it back, so we can maybe narrow down what ails it if we watch it long enough.
GTrax
 
Old 09-15-2006, 12:10 PM   #11
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Kweather

Gtrax

I ahve just installed Mepis6 and Kweater will not work using my local weather station (Liverpool Airport, UK) which is in the Kweather database. If I ask for a weather report I am informed the is no such weather station. Previous version worked fine and you used to be able to to enter the Staion Code which I think was KPPG

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Old 09-16-2006, 07:45 AM   #12
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  1. I don't think it's KWeather's own database -- it's actually:
    US Dept of Commerce
    National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
    National Weather Service (NWS)
    http://www.weather.gov/
    http://www.weather.gov/organization.php
    http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml

  2. All stations "K???" are in the U.S.

  3. UK stations start w/ an "E".

  4. Liverpool Airport, UK is EGGP.
    (No offense, but do I detect a touch of dyslexia here? )

  5. I found it at:
    http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/nsd_...ited%20Kingdom

Erratum

In a previous post, #8 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...47#post2410347,
I said my BIOS clock was set to UTC. Er, ah, well it is now.
At the time it was still on local (US CDT -0500) as the previous owner had it set.
 
  


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