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Old 05-21-2005, 06:32 PM   #16
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OK but one thing is clear
Even though I sort of like Mepis more than any other distro (first distro that worked with VMWare 5.0 FULL hard drive support, has both 2.6 and 2.4 kernels, first distro were I was able to fully emulate Windows using Wine, first time I tried the amazing Debian repositories), there is a problem with Mepis

My paralel port doesn't works. I don't need it that bad, but hey, I will really like somebody to tell me their experience and help me fix it. So after 2-3 days of searching in various forums, you DO get tired of receiving no responses.

Make a math count:
http://www.mepislovers.org/modules/xoopsmembers/
2905 members
23 user(s) are online
Members: 9
Guests: 14

From http://www.mepis.org/forum
That board doesn't seems pretty big

From http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
21,546
Currently Active Users: 367 (96 members and 271 guests)

For instance, I go to http://www.mepis.org/forum, search for "parallel port" and found one specific talk about that in the forums (coincidence, it's my own forum posted a few days ago)

The search at Mepis.org did provide me a few links, time to do some reading

However, time to see at ubuntuforums:
118 results

I really hope this forum and great iniciative from www.linuxquestions.org will work

I was a very Happy Mepis user
then I thought, "I will install Mepis at my house too, to avoid waiting hours before my PC reacts with Windows"
But then came the problems, withour parallel port in the office I can use USB and print anyway
But without parallel port on my PC, I have to
1) use Window$
2) try another distro

And the option is Kubuntu, I will try it here and hope it detects my parael port.

Thanks for all your experiences, I will definitively try adding the official debian sources to kubuntu.
 
Old 05-21-2005, 06:53 PM   #17
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My bet is that the problem with your parallel port can be found in a BIOS setting. Go into the BIOS and disable Plug/Play and also set the port to ECP or EPP or SPP....see

http://www.addrex.com/secap1.htm
http://www.umax.co.uk/support/technotes/f113B.htm

and try adding your printer again and see if CUPS sees the port.

I don't know if you run a dual-boot machine but on some hardware when you power down WinXP it turns off the parallel port via the plug and play option. Get rid of that option and that may solve the problem. Let us know.

Al
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Old 05-21-2005, 07:11 PM   #18
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Hey thanks for the suggestion, I will inmediately try it

The only distro that I think worked with a printer was Mandrake, but again, VMWare didn't allowed me to use my entire HD.

I don't know what's wrong between parallel ports and linux, it's such a big mess, really (I've tried Mepis, Suse, RedHat, RHE, Fedora, Mandrake)


I think that Mepis is a one man based distro, but look at Microsoft, it's a "one man based distro as well, a distro that has so many flaws that the internet is full of worms and spyware earning companies because of it), so Linux should be 100% COMPATIBLE between distros, the only difference between them should be stuff like Yast, Mandrake Control Center, Desktop managers... and so on.

Linux is a dispute, argue with me if you want, but having 10-15 different versions of the same package is less productive than having a "Windows compatible" package for everything

I think that LinuxQuestions is a place were we should share our ideas. I love linux, and don't think of using Window$ as my main OS, BUT, one thing that I don't like about LInux, is that if you want your parallel port to work, you have to try 8 different distros until one works with your parallel port.

I might just end using Mandrake again, a Mandrake OS at home, and a Mepis OS at office. Two very incompatible distros, and I don't have time to install EVERYTHING from source (that will be the only way to have both distros sort of compatible)
 
Old 05-22-2005, 12:47 AM   #19
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Quote:
right now i'm thinking of switching away from debian however...
jnev,
If you want another "like" debian system that is stable and isn't RPM based, I would consider looking at Arch. Rock solid, and it's loosly based of Slackware (it's Crux based, which is Slack based)
Speed, reliability. awesomeness. It also has one of the most knowledgeable communities this side of gentoo or lfs.

And honestly, most software has a Debian .deb and an Mandy .rpm, there really shouldn't be too much of a problem. Hell, you can even install the rpm program in a debian install.

The distros are more compatible than most people think, it is frustrating though.

And honestly, if the parallell port doens't work out of the box, there is always something you can do to try to get it to work, regardless of the distro (otherwise distros like Arch and Gentoo, where you configure everything yourself, wouldn't exist). Have you tried using the hardware detection tool hwd? I don't know if there is anywhere else to download it (there's a packagae for it in Arch, and I beleive it is the same detection tool thta Knoppix uses).

Also, are you sure your parallel port is in the kernel, or it could be a bios setting.

Keep your chin up, I'm sure you can find the answer out there (hell, you might even wanna go ask people at a gentoo or arch forum... they seem to know everything, ever!)
 
Old 05-22-2005, 05:33 AM   #20
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Originally posted by DeusExLinux
jnev,
If you want another "like" debian system that is stable and isn't RPM based, I would consider looking at Arch. Rock solid, and it's loosly based of Slackware (it's Crux based, which is Slack based)
Speed, reliability. awesomeness. It also has one of the most knowledgeable communities this side of gentoo or lfs.

And honestly, most software has a Debian .deb and an Mandy .rpm, there really shouldn't be too much of a problem. Hell, you can even install the rpm program in a debian install.

The distros are more compatible than most people think, it is frustrating though.

And honestly, if the parallell port doens't work out of the box, there is always something you can do to try to get it to work, regardless of the distro (otherwise distros like Arch and Gentoo, where you configure everything yourself, wouldn't exist). Have you tried using the hardware detection tool hwd? I don't know if there is anywhere else to download it (there's a packagae for it in Arch, and I beleive it is the same detection tool thta Knoppix uses).

Also, are you sure your parallel port is in the kernel, or it could be a bios setting.

Keep your chin up, I'm sure you can find the answer out there (hell, you might even wanna go ask people at a gentoo or arch forum... they seem to know everything, ever!)
To be honest, Arch is much more like Gentoo, than Debian/Slackware. Noticed alot of flame wars, in other forums where Gentoo and Arch losers fight it out.
 
Old 05-22-2005, 10:21 AM   #21
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Originally posted by CoffeeMonster
To be honest, Arch is much more like Gentoo, than Debian/Slackware. Noticed alot of flame wars, in other forums where Gentoo and Arch losers fight it out.
Than you ain't never been to alt.os.linux.slackware .... which is a group run by a pack of wild dogs... and if you come up against any of the alpha dogs you're going to have your tail kicked. If you choose tthe Slackware distro, use LQ for any help you might need becaue the usenet group is a wasteland. (I still have a Slackware box which I will eventually move to a Debian distro... probably Mepis or my new 'love-interest' Kanotix.

Al
 
Old 05-22-2005, 10:50 AM   #22
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I find it amusing when kids fight, (and 36 year old losers) flame wars for their distro, when I use Linux, (Im a BSD Type) I use Suse 9.3, I find it easy to use, and isnt like all those "leet" distros, such as Gentoo and Arch, that alot of kids use. The distros that should be allowed to live are the following:

RedHat
Slackware (Ncurses Config Tools)
Debian, Including some debian-based distros (I like it because of the ease of use)
Xandros, I know it's debian-based but it's worthy of a seperate mention.
Suse
Mandrake

No bullshit, easy to use Linux. That's what everyone wants, I used to use Gentoo. Then I woke up, and decided, no more compiling, what is the point? So a program can execute 0.2 seconds faster? Get a life all you elitist morons out there. I want pre-packaged commercial linux, and that's coming from a Anarchist. Because all the free ones are dog shit, the only decent free ones I have used are Debian and Slackware. Like right now, im using Windows XP. Oh no not MS, let's all fellate Linux. I want to use convinent Linux. Sorry to all you guys who want to talk about Ubuntu and MEPIS (they don't suck, I like them both), but I needed to get this off my chest.
 
Old 05-22-2005, 12:42 PM   #23
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Originally posted by CoffeeMonster
I find it amusing when kids fight, (and 36 year old losers) flame wars for their distro, when I use Linux, (Im a BSD Type) I use Suse 9.3, I find it easy to use, and isnt like all those "leet" distros, such as Gentoo and Arch, that alot of kids use. The distros that should be allowed to live are the following:

RedHat
Slackware (Ncurses Config Tools)
Debian, Including some debian-based distros (I like it because of the ease of use)
Xandros, I know it's debian-based but it's worthy of a seperate mention.
Suse
Mandrake

No bullshit, easy to use Linux. That's what everyone wants, I used to use Gentoo. Then I woke up, and decided, no more compiling, what is the point? So a program can execute 0.2 seconds faster? Get a life all you elitist morons out there. I want pre-packaged commercial linux, and that's coming from a Anarchist. Because all the free ones are dog shit, the only decent free ones I have used are Debian and Slackware. Like right now, im using Windows XP. Oh no not MS, let's all fellate Linux. I want to use convinent Linux. Sorry to all you guys who want to talk about Ubuntu and MEPIS (they don't suck, I like them both), but I needed to get this off my chest.
I was going to do snipping and just quote relevant parts, but there was so much here.

Anyway, i call troll. You like free distros (no cost?) and yet quote Red Hat as a distro that can live. Surely you mean Fedora. And "...easy to use Linux. That's what everyone wants.." everyone? That's a huuuge generalisation. Especially when you post on a board where a large number of members have said they prefer the "harder" distros.

Please, if you want to express an opinion do so in a less inflammatory manner.
 
Old 05-22-2005, 01:57 PM   #24
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Troll? How about we play along and I can troll eh?
Bahaha, actually, RE-READ. I said, I didnt like free distros.

Quote:
I want pre-packaged commercial linux
I LIKE free distros? How about reading? Can you read propely. Oh by the way, I would'nt hesitate to insult you even more, because I like being a jackass, but I would probably get banned.

Quote:
Because all the free ones are dog shit, the only decent free ones I have used are Debian and Slackware
Oh, because you use it, slackware is now on my dog shit list.
By the way, ever heard of ignoring what everyone else thinks, and overwriting it with your own opinion?

Quote:
No bullshit, easy to use Linux. That's what everyone wants...
So, by posting the above, you've stopped spam, and done you're internet mod duties (yes, internet, not the real world). Oh Wait.

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Old 05-23-2005, 03:21 AM   #25
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Let me knock both Mepis and Ubuntu (keep in mind though that they're both my favorite distros)

Problems I've had with Mepis:
- nvidia driver.....was like a 2 month period were it was nearly impossible to get it to work
- doesn't detect monitor like most modern distros can you say 60Hz (bad for eyes)
- sound used to be muted (mostly fixed nowadays) until volume turned up in mixer
- no outta the box support for external firewire drives

Problems I've had with Ubuntu
- currently have nvidia issue ...hmmm
- sound ESD, alsa, oss , kill -9 esd it's a huge mess at times
- 386 kernel (default) only recognizes 885MB out of 1GB of memory
- 686 kernel recognizes all 1GB memory but CPU usages is thru the roof
- need to install java, flash, mp3, etc. finally easy with ubuntu add-on cd
- try installing firefox 1.0.4 from backports still have trouble with extensions
- didn't detect my monitor either had to manually add frequencies

Regardless I think they're both awesome distros.
 
Old 05-23-2005, 09:25 AM   #26
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wow... I REALLY think it's about time that CoffeeMonster get banned from this site. I have not seen anyone act so rude on this site since I first joined. Surely, we all have disaggreements from time to time, but the amount of personal attacks this individual expells on a seemingly constant basis is beginning to tarnish the look of these forums. LQ is *the_best* Linux help site on the 'net and I think we need to strictly enforce some of the rules on this one.

Last edited by halo14; 05-23-2005 at 09:27 AM.
 
Old 05-23-2005, 09:35 AM   #27
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Hey, quit whining please, OH NO halo14 years old. Nobody Cares.

Oh by the way, OFS.

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Old 05-23-2005, 09:41 AM   #28
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Actually I'm 21.... (not that that's even relevant??)

And actually, I'm sure people do care. It would seem that way since you've already been warned about your attitude/language...
 
Old 05-23-2005, 09:46 AM   #29
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Are you a moderator? No. Even if you were, I like to compare them to the police, useless.
 
Old 05-23-2005, 02:37 PM   #30
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Are you a moderator? No. Even if you were, I like to compare them to the police, useless.
He may not be, but I am. Well done CoffeeMonster, you win the title of "Internet Hardman". If you don't want to adhere to our rules and policies fine. Just go somewhere else. You seem to feel it's your god-given right to stir it up. Pack. It. In. You will have your posting privileges revoked and if you want them restored, you will have to take it up with the site admin.
 
  


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