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Old 06-10-2005, 01:59 PM   #1
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Windows 2000 Bootloader vs. Mandriva LILO Bootloader


I was searching the forums for how to allow the Windows Bootloader to control my system instead of LILO. I came across this thread:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...icle&artid=441

Now this goes through how to setup linux to not mess with windows MBR so you can install / uninstall at your hearts content without losing the way windows loads if you remove linux (yet I dont know why you would want to do that.)

Anyway, I didnt find this out until 3 weeks since I've been running Mandriva Linux 10.1 Official. I finally got stuff working the way i want it too (except for windows system emualtion for games, gonna look into Cedaga for that...) even got my system to install the ATI Radeon 9600 PRO drivers with success.

Now, this link doesnt say how you can fix your bootload after its all said and done. Does anyone know how this can be done without reinstalling Linux to change the way bootloader behaves. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
 
Old 06-12-2005, 12:52 AM   #2
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Re: Windows 2000 Bootloader vs. Mandriva LILO Bootloader

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Originally posted by Dregnan
I was searching the forums for how to allow the Windows Bootloader to control my system instead of LILO. I came across this thread:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...icle&artid=441

Now this goes through how to setup linux to not mess with windows MBR so you can install / uninstall at your hearts content without losing the way windows loads if you remove linux (yet I dont know why you would want to do that.)

Anyway, I didnt find this out until 3 weeks since I've been running Mandriva Linux 10.1 Official. I finally got stuff working the way i want it too (except for windows system emualtion for games, gonna look into Cedaga for that...) even got my system to install the ATI Radeon 9600 PRO drivers with success.

Now, this link doesnt say how you can fix your bootload after its all said and done. Does anyone know how this can be done without reinstalling Linux to change the way bootloader behaves. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
Hi!

Do you mean that you want to remove LILO and use Windows Bootloader only?. If that's what you mean, I recommend you to first try to get your Windows Bootloader able to boot Mandrake before messing up with other things. If you are successful by doing that, then when you choose "Windows" from the LILO menu, the Windows bootloader should come up and show you Mandrake too. Only then remove LILO. To remove LILO, type:

lilo -u /dev/hda

That goes if LILO is installed on the MBR of your first IDE controller. If you use sATA try:

lilo -u /dev/sda1

Still, I don't know why you would want to go into all this trouble if your system is working correctly and LILO is a better bootloader then Windows, accepting arguments and a lot of other important stuff...

Good luck!
 
Old 06-14-2005, 12:22 AM   #3
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Microsoft dosen't like for you to run anyone else's operating system. None of the systems I have use windows for boot selection, all use LILO and work flawlessly.

DualBooting - http://roofrabbit.com/xwindualboot.html
 
Old 06-14-2005, 08:18 AM   #4
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Well, now I'm not even worried about that, I have another problem now with Mandriva. I had updated my KDE to 3.4.0 and saw some problems. When I went to logoff or logout whichever its called, I no longer had any option to restart or shutdown as I had in my previous version 3.2. I proceeded to uninstall KDE trying to revert back to my previous version. But then I installed another Desktop Environment called Enlightenment. I dont know how to use that at all nothing near the same as KDE. I will start a new thread hopefully someone can help me out with this without reinstalling linux completey unless i have to do that.

Well if you can help me with this the thread for this topic is here:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=333431
 
Old 09-17-2007, 09:59 PM   #5
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Hey, this might be a VERY late reply, but for other's sake, I'll post anyway...

Well you can try installing Partition Magic. It has its own bootloader (which you can install optionally) for Windows where you can add and boot a Linux partion. After it has been installed, you can specify which partition you wanted to boot too, so if you WANT TO have Linux on hda2, you can tell it to boot hda2 as well. Bad news however is that it assumes you haven't install Linux yet because it WILL format that partition.

Btw, it also comes with an option to create a rescue disk in case the bootloader fails.

Goodluck.
 
Old 11-26-2007, 07:52 PM   #6
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bootloader issue is solved by either using grub in mbr and it chainloads to to your ms bootloader called ntldr.exe or (heaven forbid) you can allow your boot.ini file to chainload to a grub image that will allow ms to chainload thru to linux.

its in my signature ...either way is ok but grub is smarter with its troubleshooting tools which ntldr can not do.
 
Old 12-03-2007, 09:51 PM   #7
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The directions on the box said, "install win98 or better" So I installed (Linux)Mandriva2008!

You can't be serious! Windows of any type is not nearly as secure, out of the box, as *nux.

If you truly want to use the boot.ini/ntldr as the first step in your boot process, you open yourself to someone being able to access your system just by sitting down in front of your machine and using a emergency boot disk to access, and change your windows password(to blank/nothing) and doing whatever they want.

As asus9 describes, grub and grub2 have it all covered FOR YOU!

To install another foreign bootloader (no offence yan0) that is developed for windows systems admin, is just complicating the services for you, You will end up getting more software to solve those problems, when you could just install windows(if you must, I do) then install linux and use the services available by default/free to boot your system.

You can and may set the default OS to win if you want.

Otherwise google boot loaders, and dual booting windows with windows, like winxp and win98, and you will find directions for editing your boot.ini file so you can do like you describe.

But why would you want to use a less secure environment when you have the best already at your finger tips.

So yes it can be done, but don't believe all of the nonsense you read from M$ admins and developers. Their message is designed to make you choose M$ windows only and then stop looking. You can be a victim too, easy.

Cheers, Glenn

P.S. "the more you know the less you believe" Bono

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Old 12-03-2007, 09:55 PM   #8
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To address you inital question, to restore you boot loader, win or linux, use the rescue app off either install cd.
 
  


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