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Old 02-27-2004, 10:38 AM   #1
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Window Managers: Description Needed


Good day everyone, Tiger here.

Just wondering if anyone could explain to me the idea of the Window Managers and the "things" like desktops that run under them?

For example, the whole Gnome/Sawfish thing...
What is Gnome, what is Sawfish?

(I know what Gnome is (in functionality) but what does the Sawfish thing do underneath or above gnome?)

May sound a bit confusin', but so am I :P

./tiger

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Old 02-27-2004, 10:51 AM   #2
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Well, GNOME and KDE are called Desktop Environments: they provide an actual desktop (what you put icons on) and also provide a few more tools than most Window Managers. Window Managers just provide the window dressings (close button, menu button, minimize, etc.) and maybe a menu/taskbar. The whole GNOME/Sawfish thing is GNOME can use any Window Manager you want (some better than others, of course). GNOME originally used Sawfish to provide the window management, but now it uses Metacity. Some people still prefer Sawfish so they change some configuration to make GNOME use that instead of Metacity. I suspect there's somebody out there who's got a GNOME/IceWM config going.
I don't know if this is the case with KDE, since I never touch the thing.
 
Old 02-27-2004, 10:53 AM   #3
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HMM, that was helpful, thanks.

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Well, GNOME and KDE are called Desktop Environments: they provide an actual desktop (what you put icons on) and also provide a few more tools than most Window Managers. Window Managers just provide the window dressings (close button, menu button, minimize, etc.) and maybe a menu/taskbar. The whole GNOME/Sawfish thing is GNOME can use any Window Manager you want (some better than others, of course). GNOME originally used Sawfish to provide the window management, but now it uses Metacity. Some people still prefer Sawfish so they change some configuration to make GNOME use that instead of Metacity. I suspect there's somebody out there who's got a GNOME/IceWM config going.
I don't know if this is the case with KDE, since I never touch the thing.
So, my Gnome is the "Desktop Environment" while Metacity is the actual Window Manager?
 
Old 02-27-2004, 10:58 AM   #4
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You got it. If you go to this question in the GNOME Art FAQ, you'll see that your Window Border themes go in the Metacity folder.
 
Old 02-27-2004, 11:10 AM   #5
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You got it. If you go to this question in the GNOME Art FAQ, you'll see that your Window Border themes go in the Metacity folder.
Nis, thank you so much!

You can't imagine how much of a help you been to me. ( I had been in MANY irc channels trying to ask my question above and they all sent me to a thousand urls and man pages :P )

Nis has a full 10 points in my book

 
Old 02-27-2004, 06:31 PM   #6
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I would be one of those people suspected of running Gnome with IceWM, if I could figure out how to set it that way. What configuration file(s) do I have to change to make this happen. I'd actually like to try Gnome with several different Window Managers, just to see what it's like ... like maybe Blackbox on top of Gnome ... or Enlightenment.
Your help is truly appreciated. I have searched and searched, but no answer has popped up yet.
 
Old 02-28-2004, 05:54 PM   #7
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question answered and resolved via IRC channel #Linuxhelp. i'm not going to even try to detail the process, way more difficult than it should be.
 
  


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