Updating Gimp Problems
 

I wanted to update The Gimp so I found and downloaded the MDK RPM. When I tried to install it the program demanded two additional files as dependencies. I located and down loaded these files and tried again. One of these files then demanded four more files as dependencies. This could go on forever. I only wanted to update a program, not start a new career. Is there some unwritten rule about not making a package that downloads and runs?

winger

Welcome to the world of "commercial distributions." Such similar experiences ran me away
from RedHat - the RPM system - the fact that those commercial distros don't do things the
way other distros do - and they're bloated - just like M$.

If you want to learn Mandreck, fine. If you want to learn Linux, run Slackware. :}
With Slack you can upgrade packages very easily. There is a site called Linux Packages
where you can enter the package name, and your Slackware version, and it will
give you the package that's tailored for your specific system. There are many
ways to update Slack, even to Slack-current, and they ALL work better than RPM.

Not just my :twocents: but facts! Why don't you go visit the Slackware web site, read
the information in the links on the left side, download the first 2 iso images,
and join us!

Some more facts.

Mandrake has a wonderful tool for sorting out dependency problems called urpmi. It really does work. Try going to http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php Follow the instructions and you will find hundreds of additional packages you can install very simply. I don't know if the gimp is one of them, however.

What I have found is that adding extra sources as that page allows you to, often means that when a new package requires other RPMs to work, they are actually available from one of the sites I've added. So, if you add extra urpmi sources, then try installing the RPM of the gimp, you may well find urpmi solves your dependency problem and gets those other RPMs automatically. (Or you may not, but you will have loads more choice about package installation...)

Chinaman
I went to the Slackware site as you suggested and clicked on the link that said download here. According to the listing they were the installation iso files but when I downloaded them they had an extension .torrent and the largest was only 52K. I wonder if it is worth the effort to muck around in a distro that can't give adequate download instructions on its website.

Carlywarly
I downloaded and ran the ran urpmi. I don't know exactly what it did but subsequently I did find a Gimp RPM that wasn't there before. I attempted to install it and got the message no GPM signature. I checked the install anyway and received the message that two additional programs were required and the installation aborted. This was no different from what happened when I downloaded the RPM directly.

Just keep mucking around with Mandreck. :} Or, if you prefer, use this link ->
ftp://ftp.biochem.uthscsa.edu/pub/li...kware-9.1-iso/
You need these two files ->
slackware-9.1-install-d1.iso
slackware-9.1-install-d2.iso

The files with the extension .torrent were Bittorrent files. I've never been able
to use it. The principle is that you share your hard drive with others who use
Bittorrent. Since I don't share my hard drive with anyone over the net, it's not
something for me to use.

I and others have been attempting to install the Gimp on a Mandrake 9.2 system. Urpmi appears to be incapable of accomodating the dependencies listed for this application.
In frustration, I have attempted to install the requirements by hand - but some are stubborn (GTK+2.2.2/GTK+2.4 specifically.)
Now I see that this difficulty is taken as opportunity by others to bash Mandrake and tout thier own distro. This most certainly does not represent the helpful community that attracted me to *nix.
Please, someone who has successfully installed Gimp2.0 write a "how-to" specific to ML or motivate the gods of RPM to complete the required activity.

Hello,

I got Gimp2.0pre4-1 installed and running in Mandrake 10CE by doing the following:

-Downloaded RPM from the following site http://www.gnome.org/~drc/gimp-rpms/

-Installed RPM

-Created a link to /usr/share/gimp/1.3/misc/gimp.desktop on my desktop(apparently gimp2 installs as gimp1.3)

I had to create this link because despite the program installing it did not show up in my menu. I use this link to launch gimp and it works fine. I also chose to uninstal gimp1.2 since I don't need two copies of this program on my system, but that is a personal choice.

If you need to find the gimp.desktop file for gimp2 do the following:

-In Remove Software, search for gimp

-Click on gimp-2.0pre4-1 in search results

-Click on Maximum information and scroll down the right frame until you find it

I have not been able to figure out how to add gimp2 to my menu. If anyone knows how to do this I would be interested in learning how.

I hope this works for others. Good luck.

What I find depressing is that there is already an excellent installer for The Gimp 2 for the Windows Version that works without a problem, but we can't seem to accomplish this in Linux, at least in the MDK distro.

Considering that The Gimp was written for Linux long before Windows this is reprehensible. It is no wonder that newbies like ourselves give Linux a try and then run screaming back to Windows.

winger

Does anyone know where I can find a GIMP 2.0 RPM for Mandrake 9.2?
Everytime I Google "gimp 2.0" I only get results about the prerelease versions

I am not in the mood to compile source code.

I found this site http://people.ecsc.co.uk/~matt/downl...mp/2.0.0/RPMS/ which has the RPM of the stable version of gimp2. I have had the same issues as with the pre.2.0 install, so the steps in my reply above still apply. I believe the issues I am having is due to the fact that these RPM compiles are not intended for MDK 10 specifically. Hopefully someone will do a MDK 10 compile soon.

mitotiani

I tried the link in your message. It appears to me that those RPMs are written for Red Hat. I am not very knowledgeable in this area but all the MDK RPMs appear to end in i586.

In my limited experience, I have never had any success using Red Hat RPMs in MDK.

winger

Chinaman

If you are still here: I downloaded the Slackware 9.1 Iso's and installed it on a spare partition. I set it to boot Lilo from a floppy to insure I wouldn't blow away my master boot record, which currently boots Windows and Mandrake.

During installation I allowed a full install and selected the option to boot directly into KDE; however, when it boots what I get is a command line. I suppose Linus Torvalds would know how to proceed, but unfortunately I don't, so I can't see how this distro is the answer to my prayers.

I realize that at this point this post more properly belongs in the Slackware forum, but since we did start here I figured we should finish here.

winger

For those still trying to install Gimp 2 in MDK:

carleywarly offered a method a few messages up using urpmi.com. I tried this about four times over several days, changing the mirrors each time, each of which failed. I tried it again today with ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/mandrake/M...ates/9.1/RPMS/ as the mirror and it worked, installiing Gimp 2 as Gimp 1.3 something under the multimedia - graphics menu in KDE.

It appeared to me that I had to run ' urpmi.removemedia -a' in the console after each failure to get the Software manager to use the new mirror but since I don't know what I am doing half the time it's hard to tell. Anyway, brute strength and akwardness won again.

winger

I did mention that this Gimp RPM was not for MDK 10CE, that is why it does not install correctly. However it does work in the meantime, while an actual MDK 10CE compile is offered. I did this because I wanted to try Gimp 2.0 stable.

By the way, I may be mistaken but the stable version of Gimp installs as 2.0, the pre installs as 1.3. It is nice to see that there is at least an update for MDK.

I was able to compile gimp 2.0.0 from source, on Mandrake 9.2 and Mandrake 10.0 CE with just two minor errors on both during ./configure :
gimp 2 is working very well, and I don't know how much of an impact these errors may cause (my guess is none).
I see that there is a 2.0.0-1mdk RPM in the contribs for 10.0, but I haven't tried it, is this the one everyone is having problems with?

P.S. If anyone is interested and time permits me to do so, I could build some RPMs for both 9.2 and 10.0 and make them available via bittorent.