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Old 09-30-2012, 01:27 PM   #16
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And I don't have apt-get .
You don't need it, Mnadriva uses urpmi as its package manager. That like is for Debain user.

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And disabling the pulse audio does not work !
Hmmm. It was a suggestion based on all the problems with pulse audio.

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So from what I understand I should have at least 3.2 , how can I get a newer version of the kernel, I knew about the
possibility to compile the kernel, but I don't know how is that done ?
Mandriva repos, what is the latest kernel there? If 2.6.39 is the latest, that puts Mandriva a long way behind.

Kernel source. -->http://www.kernel.org/

Here is a 'How To' for Slackware. -->http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/...kernelbuilding

You can google to see if there is a How To for Mandriva. Slackware comes with all the necessary tools for the job. Since the philosophy at Mandriva is to use their kernels, it will be more difficult. See if you can find a How To for Mandriva. The Slackware how to will give you an overview of the steps. What it won't do is give you any idea how to configure the kernel. You should be able to get a config file from your existing kernel, and use that. I don't think there is any good reason to make many, if any changes to the config.

Understand, building a kernel is not all that hard, your system does the work. It does take some careful reading though.
 
Old 10-01-2012, 09:47 AM   #17
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Mandriva repos, what is the latest kernel there? If 2.6.39 is the latest, that puts Mandriva a long way behind.
I have searched extensively through Google and could not find any relevant pages, I remember that once on an older version of Mandriva I updated the reposetories using three shell command through an internet web page, but I can't remember now.

I found this page, I don't understand every step and thus afraid of following it since I don't want to break my system.

Thanks,
 
Old 10-01-2012, 10:07 AM   #18
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To update your repos, this link is as easy as it gets.

-->http://mandrivausers.org/easyurpmi/

I had a look through that How To. The instructions look good to me. It suggests using your old kernel config, that is what I would recommend.

You do not break anything compiling the kernel. It is a job that runs on your system like any other job. It produces the files necessary to change kernels. You then copy the new kernel files to the boot directory, and if you are smart, make a new entry in grub.lst for the new kernel. Leave the old entry there, and leave it set as default. On the next boot, select the new kernel. If all is well, the system boots. If there are errors, re-boot the system back to the old ( default ) kernel. As long as you do not remove the old kernel, you can use it any time you like.

If you have problems with the new kernel, you can post the error(s) and we can help. Errors in a new kernel will not break anything.
 
Old 10-01-2012, 11:31 AM   #19
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Hi,
Yes, this is the link that I once used.
 
Old 10-02-2012, 10:05 PM   #20
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I am not able to download the kernel source, after few minutes the downloading stops... I even tried wget and that does not work either.

Thnx,
 
Old 10-03-2012, 08:38 AM   #21
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I went to the link www.kernel.org and click on the 'latest stable 3.5.5'. I had the file in less than 2 minutes.

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I don't know why you would be having problems downloading data, unless you have config problems with your internet setup.
 
Old 10-04-2012, 09:12 AM   #22
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OK, so after using wget several times with the -c flag I managed to download 3.4.11, before I start the process as described in the link above, I wanted to ask for details regarding what you have wrote about grub.lst, I have no such file in my system!

Thanks,
 
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grub.lst, I have no such file in my system!
It should be in /boot/grub/ directory.
 
Old 10-04-2012, 10:33 AM   #24
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device.map install.sh* menu.lst.example stage2
device.map.old install.sh.old* menu.lst.old ufs2_stage1_5
e2fs_stage1_5 iso9660_stage1_5 minix_stage1_5 vstafs_stage1_5
fat_stage1_5 jfs_stage1_5 reiserfs_stage1_5 xfs_stage1_5
ffs_stage1_5 menu.lst stage1
This is all what I have in /boot/grub/ dir ... !
 
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You have Grub 2. That is a different ball game. I hate it, refuse to use it. It unnecessary complicated for little or no value for the average user.

There are some how to's around, so if you have booting problems, I would suggest you start by looking for a how to. Be prepared to read a lot.

That's how I see it, others may disagree; I'm not trying to start a flame war either, its just my opinion.
 
Old 10-04-2012, 12:46 PM   #26
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Hello,
Is it possible to upgrade to a higher version of Grub?
What is grub used for ?
I don't want to do any thing unless I am sure about the out come..!
I am currently downloading openSUSE 12.2, I think it will finish in about a day or so, maybe it's the time to move to a distro with more reputation than Mandriva,
I saw a link about top ten distros and Mandriva was not one of them.
By the way, I see that you use Slackware 13.37, do you recommend it to me as a relatively newbie? or it needs too much to learn? I also saw that there is version 14, is it more user friendly?

Thanks,
 
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Is it possible to upgrade to a higher version of Grub?
Grub is available in two version, Grub, sometimes called Grup legacy, it uses /boot/grub/menu.lst file and is easy to work with.

You have the newer version, called Grub 2. I think your question should be, can I remove Grub 2 and install Grub legacy? The answer lies in the repos for Mandriva. The last version I used, had grub legacy, not grub 2.

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I don't want to do any thing unless I am sure about the out come..!
Unless you have a booting problem, leave it alone.

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By the way, I see that you use Slackware 13.37, do you recommend it to me as a relatively newbie? or it needs too much to learn? I also saw that there is version 14, is it more user friendly?
A lot depends on your desire to want to learn linux. Slackware has been around for a long time, and shows signs of outlasting most other distros. It is rock solid.

Slackware does not hold your hand, or try to like some of the distros that are called "user friendly". There are not many gui tools to get things done. Its design is one of simplicity. You can make it do what ever you want.

I just installed version 14 on one of my disks. The install was done in about 20 minutes. I booted up, and most things are working. I need to configure a few others. No, it is not more user friendly than 13.37, just about the same.

Package management is different than most other distros. There is no dependency checking. As a user, you have to read the doc that comes with each package, and install the dependencies yourself. That is the way Slackers want it. That sounds difficult, but in practice it is not. I install a program called sbopkg, and it makes life easy.

One huge plus for Slackware, if you go to the Slackware forum on Linuxquestions, you will find the developers hang out there, and answer many questions directly. Slackers for the most part seem to me to be more experienced with linux in general, and do an excellent job of answering posts on Slackware. I don't need to ask many questions, but when I do, I get very useful help. Something to consider, even if you pick another disro for now, slack will be here when you are ready and have more experience.

The usual 'recommendations' I see for newbies are for Mint linux, one of the buntu's or Fedora. Your choice, never tried Opensuse, no comment there.
 
Old 10-05-2012, 12:44 AM   #28
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Your choice, never tried Opensuse, no comment there.
Do you mean that I should never try openSUSE or that you have never tried it ?
I wanted to try Fedora 17, but read that it's video drivers are broken.

So what shall I do now with the kernel compilation?

Thanks,

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Old 10-05-2012, 08:26 AM   #29
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I have never tried openSuse.

I would not recommend Fedora, it is the bleeding edge of Red Hat. For me, there are way too many releases and updates.
 
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OK, Thanks for all of the help, one day I will be linux expert and use Slackware .... :-)
 
  


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