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Old 10-25-2010, 07:42 AM   #1
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Question Mandriva PowerPack 2010 slow and bloated


I just installed Mandriva 2010 Powerpack three days ago. I was very impressed. But now the os is very sluggish and bloated. What can I do about this?

I had begun thinking about uninstalling when I saw some advice on the Mandriva 2010 Powerpack forum that it would be helpful to uninstall nspluginwrapper. It has helped, but not enough.

I'm an Ubuntu transplant and am unfamiliar with Mandriva. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 10-25-2010, 07:53 AM   #2
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Hi,

Try top command to see which process is utilizing more cpu and memory.

If you still want to un-install Linux let us know!
 
Old 10-25-2010, 11:18 PM   #3
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Now Mandriva won't boot. Let me backtrack.

When I installed Mandriva PowerPack, I guess it overwrote MBR; so os on sda wouldn't boot (Linux Mint 8). So I used a LM 8 live cd to update and reinstall grub2 (I hadn't been pressed to boot LM8 until after Mandriva became slow and bloated). When I rebooted, Mandriva wouldn't boot, although it is listed on the grub2 menu.

I have six menu selections for Mandriva (on sdb):

linux (on /dev/sdb1)
linux-nonfb (on /dev/sdb1)
failsafe (on /dev/sdb1)
desktop 2.6.31.5-1mnb (on /dev/sdb1)
desktop 2.6.31.13-1mnb (on /dev/sdb1)
desktop 2.6.31.13 (on /dev/sdb1)

randall@randall-desktop ~ $ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for randall:

Disk /dev/sda: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00076bcb

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 130 1044193+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 131 2327 17647402+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 2328 2434 859477+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 2328 2434 859446 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdb: 40.0 GB, 40027029504 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4866 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0004ce78

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 1568 12594928+ 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2 1569 4866 26491185 5 Extended
/dev/sdb5 1569 1944 3020188+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb6 1945 4866 23470933+ 83 Linux
randall@randall-desktop ~ $

Mandriva is on sdb1 and sdb6 (/ and /home, I assume that the partitioner did that by default). Sda1, by the way, was a boot partition for an old windoze that's no longer on disk I had intended on having xp black and Mandriva share sdb and had first installed Mandriva Free to a 12 GiB partition on sdb. I didn't like Free, so deleted it and installed Mandriva One, and then replaced One with PowerPack. Very impressed, I wiped sdb and reinstalled PowerPack on the whole disk. Good thing I kept LM8; if I'd installed PowerPack on both drives, this computer would now be "hit in the mouth."

When I select any of the six Mandriva options from the Grub2 menu, I get the following message:

[Linux-bzImage, setup=0x3400, size=0x229d80] vga=788 is deprecated. Use set gfxpayload=800X600 x16, 800X600 before linux command instead.
error: no such partition.

Press any key to continue . . .
* * * * * *
And when I press any key, it takes me back to the grub menu.

I can, however, get Mandriva to boot with SystemRescueCD 1.3.1. (rescuecd root=/dev/sdb1). Such boot results in the following message:

"Fatal server error: no screens found.
Please consult the X.Org Foundation support at http://qu.mandriva.com for help. Please also check the log file at /var/log/X.Org.0.log for additional information.

Giving up.
xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server.
xinit: No such process (errno 3): server error."
* * * * * *
And, then, following the above message is a command prompt $.

I went to http://qa.mandriva.com but I'm not able to find anything there that I'm able to do anything with. The only help I could find (that I was able to recognize as help) was when I googled "cli cheat sheets for Mandriva." From there, I ended up at some urpm- tutorials. I figure my two options are to either spend a week or so in the tutorials or come back to the forums.

Any and all help given me wil be deeply appreciated. Thank you for all the help you all have given me thus far.

Randall
 
Old 10-27-2010, 08:13 AM   #4
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Is mandriva better than opensuse?
 
Old 10-27-2010, 11:33 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Randymanme View Post
Now Mandriva won't boot. Let me backtrack.

[snip to save space...]

Any and all help given me will be deeply appreciated. Thank you for all the help you all have given me thus far.

Randall
Overall it sounds like a bad install. Perhaps the disc write was bad. Did you verify the disc before install?

The Xorg errors mean the server is not starting. That is not the same as 'Mandriva won't boot' ... probably something to do with the SystemRescueCD translation.

The error about vga=788 is just a warning so the real problem is in the message the ''error: no such partition.'' Simply put GRUB cannot find the location of the distribution so it cannot boot it.

Dump Grub2 and install GRUB(legacy as called by GNU.org). GRUB2(as called by distributions) is an experimental bootloader in Mandriva 2010. It is just now being considered as a stable option for Mandriva 2011(it is in cooker but not 'fixed' completely yet).

Install to MBR is the default method. You can install to a partition rather than MBR. You should have a '' /boot '' partition to do that effectively. Size of the /boot partition only needs to be 200MB or so. (*)

There is only one kernel that needs to be installed for most users. SOP is that after update, if there is a kernel update, verify that everything works as it should(I take a week or so to test everything ... ) then remove the old kernel. Unless there are issues or you are doing work requiring old kernels, they should not be installed. Not only security risk but is just bloat and potential source of problems.


(*) Edit: There has to be a MBR on the boot device that has valid boot information in it primarily because the BIOS of the system must read it. If there is not already a valid MBR setup, GrUB code must be written to it, i.e., 'overwrite' what is there.

That's the same for other bootloaders, e.g., NTLDR( I.p., windoz systems must have MBR code to use ). If one has NTLDR(windoz NT bootLoaDeR) setup and wants to boot from it rather than GRUB, that can be done. It has to be done manually because unlike GRUB & LiLo install & setup, NTLDR makes no effort to recognize multibooting of other OS.
The install & setup of GRUB adds entries for NT & FAT* partitions, guessing, more or less, that they are boot partitions. It is up to the end user to know which are and which are not. Typically that just means knowing which '/dev/sd*' is the so-called 'C' drive for the windoz one wants to use for boot into MS OS.

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Old 10-27-2010, 11:39 AM   #6
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Is mandriva better than opensuse?
Eh, depends on the release. I use both. Currently, all the 11 series suk for me. I have not had time to find out why 11.3 is such a disaster here.
Previously, openSUSE was better for some releases.

In My Opinion, on my systems, of course, openSUSE does some things better than MDV and MDV does some things better than openSUSE.
I personally wish that Mandriva had joined with SUSE, et al, for Unified Linux so we could have the best of both. ...well, potentially anyway.

One beauty of OSS is that we can use both.

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Old 10-27-2010, 06:29 PM   #7
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how about Kubuntu , is it better than Ubuntu? More polish?
 
Old 10-27-2010, 10:44 PM   #8
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how about Kubuntu , is it better than Ubuntu? More polish?
Basically that is a KDE -vs- GNOME question ... which is off topic. Indeed *buntu is off-topic for this thread.
There are threads about those here at LQ.org. Please search as there will be, most likely, hundreds of opinions.

My answer is that I do not use *buntu in any form any more ...and will not any time soon. (...)

My advice is to setup VMware Player and|or Virtualbox on a system and install whatever distro one wants to try(even some BSD) because in the end it is a matter of personal taste and professional requirements as to which Linux to use.

...and look around LQ for opinions on distros, I am positive there are plenty of them, .
 
Old 10-28-2010, 03:02 PM   #9
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i tried to install mac osx on PC but failed.
 
Old 10-30-2010, 09:04 AM   #10
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already installed mandriva spring 2010, run very nice, i love it
 
Old 10-30-2010, 09:30 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Randymanme View Post
Now Mandriva won't boot. Let me backtrack.

When I installed Mandriva PowerPack, I guess it overwrote MBR; so os on sda wouldn't boot (Linux Mint 8). So I used a LM 8 live cd to update and reinstall grub2 (I hadn't been pressed to boot LM8 until after Mandriva became slow and bloated). When I rebooted, Mandriva wouldn't boot, although it is listed on the grub2 menu.
....

Randall
I think this issue is on the Linux Mint's GRUB2 setup. It's probably calling the wrong partitions. Notice that GRUB2 is passing Mandriva's kernel parameters to Linux Mint's kernel. This often happens when you have multiple distros booting from multiple disks.

Linux Mint uses GRUB2 while Mandriva is still on old GRUB. I'm not exactly sure how to go about this, but you have to check out Linux Mint's GRUB2 configuration to figure out what's wrong.
 
  


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