I was on the Mandriva web site and I noticed Mandriva LE2005 has a 6 month product lifetime. Support for LE2005 expires Oct 13, 2005.

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Bob W

Well they're planning to release MandrivaLinux 2006 at that time arent they? Got a url or a quote?

The link is http://www.mandriva.com/security/productlifetime . Usually they give more than 6 months per release.

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Bob W

hmmm that in very intersting i say

It's a transitional release, not a full blown one. That's why

ya so havn't they in the past released an up date, or a point release about every six months? Its no big deal, use it, enjoy it, update it, or not. Linux evolves at a faster pace the MS. so frequent releases are the norm, Its not like it will time out or anything.

When 2 companies are merged, there will inevitably be new politics. We shall have to wait and see if we like what we see or not.

Michael

I just found it interesting that LE2005 support will expire 13 days after 10.1 desktop support expires and 3 1/2 months before 10.1 base support expires. Since I am on a dial-up to the internet I will most likely wait for the next release to upgrade as it doesn't make sense to update to LE2005 for 13 more days of desktop support.

Bob W.

I've decided to go ahead and buy LE2005 now, because I want to test things out and decide whether I want to stick with the new Mandriva or not.

New releases have always come out in the spring and fall, so it's not a new practice. I'm more interested in the new company policies.

I used Redhat up until the last free release, and then with the coming of Fedora Core, none of my links or passwords to Redhat worked anymore. They just sort of dropped us. Then I went to Mandrake and have been pretty happy with it.

It's not the software that worries me, but the politics.

Michael

I don't think 2005 LE will truly reflect the kind of product that Mandriva is likely to produce in the future. 2005 LE mainly uses Mandrake technology whereas the next product should have technology from Conectiva as well.

You mean that LE2005 is really Mandrake-10.2. Well, even so, I've been waiting for 10.2.

I haven't used Connectiva. Does it use rpm and is it similar to the Mandrake/Redhat filesystem layout? I have read that there won't be *any* proprietary software, so I wonder if we'll have to say goodbye to plf?

In any case, I can't really make a qualified judgement until I've seen the product. We'll see.

Michael

Yeah I meant LE 2005 is more like Mandrake 10.2. PLF has never been officially sanctioned by Mandrake, so I think it will still exist regardess of what happens to Mandriva. Conectiva uses RPM, but they use APT/SYNAPTIC as their main package management tool. They are the ones who ported APT and SYNAPTIC from Debian.

APT/SYNAPTIC
Well, that's something I have not used before. I used Redhat from what? 6.1 through version 9, and the updates were always direct from redhat - I think.

Then when I moved to Mandrake, I actually had to learn some things, since there weren't any experts, I had to be my own.

I have my Knoppix emergency disks of course, and when I requested a copy of Ubuntu, they sent me 30 of them! I'm still giving them away. I know that they are both Debian, but I still don't know about apt or .deb files. I do know that they are a very different animal from .rpm's.

Well, once you think you've seen it all, you ain't. So time to learn something new.

Thanks for the insight.

Michael

From Redhat 9 onwards, you could get packages directly from Redhat using apt/synaptic, but its a method that wasn't officially sanctioned by Redhat until they joined forces with the old Fedora project. APT is still not shipped by default with Redhat/Fedora, they prefer YUM instead, but APT is available from Fedora Extras.