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HeLLWiZerD 02-11-2006 02:08 PM

Mandriva 2006 - 64bit - incompatible with newer hardware?
 
i'm wondering if mandriva 2006 is capable of running on some of the newest hardware available. i have a asus a8n32-sli deluxe, athlon64 X2 4800+, xfx 7800 gtx, sound blaster x-fi, and 2 320GB SATA hard drives in RAID 0, also a 400GB single, but i unplug that before installation to give linux a fighting chance of working.

i've tried about 30 different methods of installing, all have failed in their own individual ways. on my raid i have a 30GB windows partition, a 250GB windows programs partition, a big extended partition with one logical FAT32 partition and a bunch of free space for logical linux partitions (linux' installer can't see this, it just sees 3 windows partitions).

after setting up my partitions (even forcing / as a primary) everything installs fine, and the grub even works when i reboot, i let linux boot and am presented with a firestorm of errors which seem to indicate that world is certainly coming to an end, once the errors have stopped, the kernel panics, and i'm left the only option of hard-rebooting. i've tried setting up the video card manually during installation (the newest available video card is a 6800, however), but the first among the errors is video-related, i can select from a bunch of different modes or continue, but they all result in the errors. other errors i managed to catch as they were flying down my screen include inabilities to mount reiserFS partitions, which tells me that linux might not like my RAID.

At this point i'm stuck witha broken install of linux which i have to leave there because the grub refuses to leave as the 'rescue' option of restoring the windows boot loader can't find any linux bootloaders, and if i delete the linux partitions with the installer, the grub renders an error 22 and halts the system. i tried to open partition magic in windows, but it flailed its arms and shouted "danger will robinson, danger" and told me that my entire raid is bad (windows still works, however, and my logical partition and second primary partition are still present and working).

i've only installed linux on single-drive systems before (mandriva 2005LE runs like a champ on my laptop) and i've only had to deal with minor issues, so this is somewhat new to me.

so my question is... can i install mandriva 2006 on my system with its setup (WITHOUT a doctorate in programming), and if not, how do i restore my windows boot loader. would trying the 32-bit version be a good idea? or am I SOL with my hardware until linux catches up?

thanks in advance for any and all help.

amosf 02-11-2006 02:16 PM

30 different methods of installing? wow.

I don't feel like googling, so you'll have to tell what MB chipset that would be...

You'll probably need the latest video driver from nvidia for the video.

"(even forcing / as a primary)"

What does this mean?

Anyway, what sort of errors. Give us a bit of a view of the disk layout... May be a raid issue. The idea of raid 0 sux anyway IMO, but it's your data...

HeLLWiZerD 02-11-2006 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amosf
30 different methods of installing? wow.

I don't feel like googling, so you'll have to tell what MB chipset that would be...

nforce4 x32 (the newest version of nforce4)

You'll probably need the latest video driver from nvidia for the video.

that, i have, but how do i install it?

"(even forcing / as a primary)"
What does this mean?

toggling to expert mode in the linux installer and setting my / partition as a primary (/ and /boot have to be primary partitions in order for linux to work)


Anyway, what sort of errors. Give us a bit of a view of the disk layout... May be a raid issue. The idea of raid 0 sux anyway IMO, but it's your data...

i'm not very versed in the seamy underbelly of the linux subsystem, but most of the errors that i can see refer to hard drive or video, so i think that's where my main problem lies.

a layout of my RAID:

30GB - Windows main partition - NTFS
250GB - Windows installed programs - NTFS
240GB - Extended Partition
-> 100GB - logical partition for storing files for access in both win and lin - FAT32
-> 140GB - free for linux logical partitions
35GB - space left over for linux primary partitions / and /boot

what i was trying to do was make the linux portion look like this:

30GB - primary partition - / - reiserfs
4GB - Linux SWAP - SWAP - Linux SWAP
1GB - primary partition - /boot - reiserfs
10GB - logical partition - /var - reiserfs
10GB - logical partition - /tmp - reiserfs
50GB - logical partition - /usr - reiserfs
50GB - logical partition - /usr/local - reiserfs
75GB - logical partition - /home - reiserfs

when this didn't work, i went with a simpler design:

160GB - primary partition - / - reiserfs
1.5GB - Linux SWAP - SWAP - Linux SWAP
75GB - logical partition - /home - reiserfs

but upon further inspection through windows computer management, it appears that my extended partition was expanded to encompass all the free space on my hard drive (including the FAT32 partition and all linux partitions), which tells me that all my linux partitions are logical, which will not boot, so i think my next course of action should be to kill the extended partition and try installing linux again, and create my FAT32 partition afterwards.

HeLLWiZerD 02-11-2006 03:31 PM

ok, same errors, but now, at least / is primary, swap and /home are logical, so it's probably just a matter of making linux understand my motherboard, videocard, and raid controller (built onto mobo). and i haven't the foggiest idea how to do this. any suggestions?

HeLLWiZerD 02-11-2006 03:42 PM

the chipset drivers were already on the motherboard cd, i downloaded the nvidia driver from their website, it is in .run format, how do i go about installing this without being able to boot linux?

wraithe 02-11-2006 06:41 PM

try not forcing a primary partition as this can cause major problems in itself, as reiserfs well thats your choice(and raid0 uughmm) slap myself and keep quiet.. dont try multiple partitions, major drama's even for the best unless your extremely practised in the art..

can be done but takes skill and patience.. '/' and '/home' and swap. match swap to your physical memory size +2% (just sensible)..


you may be able to let installer probe a driver that will get you started or just load vesa or the likes first.. main thing is get up and running then make it into a master piece...


hope that your next reply is healthier..
good luck..!!

HeLLWiZerD 02-11-2006 07:27 PM

yeah, i know, raid 0 eats hard drives, but for video editing it can't be beat (except by raid 3, but i don't have a spare pci slot for a raid 3 card). i went with reiserfs because i read that it's faster and better, also i used it in the 3 laptop-based linux installs i did and it worked wonderfully. yeah, once it's up and running i can usually figure out everything, but getting to that point is proving to be more of a mountain than a molehill. i think i'm just going to wait for mandriva to catch up with the hardware i have. while i do have the drivers, installing them before linux is bootable is starting to feel like an impossible task, which means without knowledge of how to manually edit configuration files, i'm pretty much screwed until drivers are implemented. does anyone know how to get rid of the grub bootloader and go back to the default windows sbl? there's an option on the cd, but it can't find the grub (ugh!)

wraithe 02-11-2006 11:53 PM

i use fdisk/mbr but haven't had to with ntfs. may work dont know as never had to recently but you could try a xp rescue which may rewrite bootloader. as i said i've not had this problem for some time..


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