Mandrake 10.1(Xorg) hangs on video driver (ATI Radeon mobility 9800)
 

hi,

i`v installed mandrake 10.1 (for the first time) and my system hangs after 1-40 minutes when the GUI is loaded (kde). i suspected it was caused by the video card driver, so I'v installed the latest driver from ATI and now i have 3d support. Still the problem occurs.

before the system hangs , the following error is mentioned in /var/log/kernel/errors:
Oct 13 09:41:36 charlie kernel: audit(1097660462.4294966757:0): initialized
Oct 13 09:41:36 charlie kernel: usb 3-2: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/start
Oct 13 09:41:36 charlie kernel: usb 3-2: can't read configurations, error -71
Oct 13 09:41:36 charlie kernel: ip1394: eth1: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0)
Oct 13 09:41:43 charlie kernel: [fglrx:firegl_addmap] *ERROR* mtrr allocation failed (-22)

the last errors always occurs before a total hang!

my video card has 256MB mem (hex 0x10000000) as mentioned in lspci -v:
...
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4a4e (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 5106
Flags: bus master, VGA palette snoop, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 16
Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) (size=256M)
I/O ports at c000 (size=256)
Memory at fcff0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) (size=64K)
Expansion ROM at 80000000 [disabled] (size=128K)
Capabilities: [58] AGP version 3.0
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
...



/proc/mtrr:
reg00: base=0x00000000 ( 0MB), size=1024MB: write-back, count=1
reg01: base=0xfeda0000 (4077MB), size= 128KB: write-combining, count=1
reg02: base=0xe0000000 (3584MB), size= 1MB: write-combining, count=1
reg03: base=0xf0000000 (3840MB), size= 128MB: write-combining, count=1

i tried to alter the mtrr mapping with
$ echo 'disable=02' > /proc/mtrr
$ echo "base=0xe0000000 size=0x10000000 type=write-combining" >/proc/mtrr

but that doesn't seem to work.

Anyone have some ideas???

i'll give some extra info:

warnings in /var/log/Xorg.0.log

(WW) fglrx(0): Cannot read colourmap from VGA. Will restore with default
(WW) fglrx(0): could not detect XFree86 version (query_status=-3)


output of glxinfo

name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
GLX_ATI_render_texture
GLX extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON 9800 Generic
OpenGL version string: 1.3.4641 (X4.3.0-3.14.1)
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array,
GL_S3_s3tc, GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program,
GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow, GL_ARB_multisample,
GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite,
GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map,
GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine,
GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix,
GL_ARB_vertex_blend, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program,
GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_ATI_draw_buffers, GL_ATI_element_array,
GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap, GL_ATI_fragment_shader, GL_ATI_map_object_buffer,
GL_ATI_separate_stencil, GL_ATI_texture_compression_3dc,
GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATI_texture_float,
GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATI_vertex_array_object,
GL_ATI_vertex_attrib_array_object, GL_ATI_vertex_streams,
GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATIX_texture_env_route,
GL_ATIX_vertex_shader_output_point_size, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra,
GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_minmax,
GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint,
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays,
GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_rescale_normal,
GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color,
GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_texgen_reflection,
GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc,
GL_EXT_texture_cube_map, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp,
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias,
GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_object,
GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_EXT_vertex_shader,
GL_HP_occlusion_test, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_blend_square,
GL_NV_occlusion_query, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp,
GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod,
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

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id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat
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extract of /etc/X11/XF86Config

...
# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
HorizSync 31.5 - 60.0
VertRefresh 59-75
Option "DPMS"

# === mode lines based on GTF ===
# VGA @ 100Hz
# Modeline "640x480@100" 43.163 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 509 +hsync +vsync
# SVGA @ 100Hz
# Modeline "800x600@100" 68.179 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 636 +hsync +vsync
# XVGA @ 100Hz
# Modeline "1024x768@100" 113.309 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 814 +hsync +vsync
# 1152x864 @ 60Hz
# Modeline "1152x864@60" 81.642 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 865 868 895 +hsync +vsync
# 1152x864 @ 85Hz
# Modeline "1152x864@85" 119.651 1152 1224 1352 1552 864 865 868 907 +hsync +vsync
# 1152x864 @ 100Hz
# Modeline "1152x864@100" 143.472 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 915 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x960 @ 75Hz
# Modeline "1280x960@75" 129.859 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x960 @ 100Hz
# Modeline "1280x960@100" 178.992 1280 1376 1520 1760 960 961 964 1017 +hsync +vsync
# SXGA @ 100Hz
# Modeline "1280x1024@100" 190.960 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1085 +hsync +vsync
# SPEA GDM-1950 (60Hz,64kHz,110MHz,-,-): 1280x1024 @ V-freq: 60.00 Hz, H-freq: 63.73 KHz
# Modeline "GDM-1950" 109.62 1280 1336 1472 1720 1024 1024 1026 1062 -hsync -vsync
# 1600x1000 @ 60Hz
# Modeline "1600x1000" 133.142 1600 1704 1872 2144 1000 1001 1004 1035 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1000 @ 75Hz
# Modeline "1600x1000" 169.128 1600 1704 1880 2160 1000 1001 1004 1044 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1000 @ 85Hz
# Modeline "1600x1000" 194.202 1600 1712 1888 2176 1000 1001 1004 1050 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1000 @ 100Hz
# Modeline "1600x1000" 232.133 1600 1720 1896 2192 1000 1001 1004 1059 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1024 @ 60Hz
# Modeline "1600x1024" 136.385 1600 1704 1872 2144 1024 1027 1030 1060 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1024 @ 75Hz
# Modeline "1600x1024" 174.416 1600 1712 1888 2176 1024 1025 1028 1069 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1024 @ 76Hz
# Modeline "1600x1024" 170.450 1600 1632 1792 2096 1024 1027 1030 1070 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1024 @ 85Hz
# Modeline "1600x1024" 198.832 1600 1712 1888 2176 1024 1027 1030 1075 +hsync +vsync
# 1920x1080 @ 60Hz
# Modeline "1920x1080" 172.798 1920 2040 2248 2576 1080 1081 1084 1118 -hsync -vsync
# 1920x1080 @ 75Hz
# Modeline "1920x1080" 211.436 1920 2056 2264 2608 1080 1081 1084 1126 +hsync +vsync
# 1920x1200 @ 60Hz
# Modeline "1920x1200" 193.156 1920 2048 2256 2592 1200 1201 1203 1242 +hsync +vsync
# 1920x1200 @ 75Hz
# Modeline "1920x1200" 246.590 1920 2064 2272 2624 1200 1201 1203 1253 +hsync +vsync
# 2048x1536 @ 60
# Modeline "2048x1536" 266.952 2048 2200 2424 2800 1536 1537 1540 1589 +hsync +vsync
# 2048x1536 @ 60
# Modeline "2048x1536" 266.952 2048 2200 2424 2800 1536 1537 1540 1589 +hsync +vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 60Hz M9 Laptop mode
# ModeLine "1400x1050" 122.000 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1052 1064 1082 +hsync +vsync
# 1920x2400 @ 25Hz for IBM T221, VS VP2290 and compatible display devices
# Modeline "1920x2400@25" 124.620 1920 1928 1980 2048 2400 2401 2403 2434 +hsync +vsync
# 1920x2400 @ 30Hz for IBM T221, VS VP2290 and compatible display devices
# Modeline "1920x2400@30" 149.250 1920 1928 1982 2044 2400 2402 2404 2434 +hsync +vsync

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard VGA Device:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Standard VGA"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"

# The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.

# Chipset "generic"

# The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.

Driver "vga"
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI
# devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# installed.

# BusID "PCI:0:10:0"

# VideoRam 256

# Clocks 25.2 28.3

EndSection

# === ATI device section ===

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Graphics Adapter"
Driver "fglrx"
# ### generic DRI settings ###
# === disable PnP Monitor ===
#Option "NoDDC"
# === disable/enable XAA/DRI ===
Option "no_accel" "no"
Option "no_dri" "no"
# === misc DRI settings ===
Option "mtrr" "off" # disable DRI mtrr mapper, driver has its own code for mtrr
# ### FireGL DDX driver module specific settings ###
# === Screen Management ===
Option "DesktopSetup" "0x00000100"
Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,AUTO"
Option "IgnoreEDID" "off"
Option "HSync2" "unspecified"
Option "VRefresh2" "unspecified"
Option "ScreenOverlap" "0"
# === TV-out Management ===
Option "NoTV" "yes"
Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
Option "TVHSizeAdj" "0"
Option "TVVSizeAdj" "0"
Option "TVHPosAdj" "0"
Option "TVVPosAdj" "0"
Option "TVHStartAdj" "0"
Option "TVColorAdj" "0"
Option "GammaCorrectionI" "0x00000000"
Option "GammaCorrectionII" "0x00000000"
# === OpenGL specific profiles/settings ===
Option "Capabilities" "0x00000000"
# === Video Overlay for the Xv extension ===
Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
# === OpenGL Overlay ===
# Note: When OpenGL Overlay is enabled, Video Overlay
# will be disabled automatically
Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
# === Center Mode (Laptops only) ===
Option "CenterMode" "off"
# === Pseudo Color Visuals (8-bit visuals) ===
Option "PseudoColorVisuals" "off"
# === QBS Management ===
Option "Stereo" "off"
Option "StereoSyncEnable" "1"
# === FSAA Management ===
Option "FSAAEnable" "no"
Option "FSAAScale" "1"
Option "FSAADisableGamma" "no"
Option "FSAACustomizeMSPos" "no"
Option "FSAAMSPosX0" "0.000000"
Option "FSAAMSPosY0" "0.000000"
Option "FSAAMSPosX1" "0.000000"
Option "FSAAMSPosY1" "0.000000"
Option "FSAAMSPosX2" "0.000000"
Option "FSAAMSPosY2" "0.000000"
Option "FSAAMSPosX3" "0.000000"
Option "FSAAMSPosY3" "0.000000"
Option "FSAAMSPosX4" "0.000000"
Option "FSAAMSPosY4" "0.000000"
Option "FSAAMSPosX5" "0.000000"
Option "FSAAMSPosY5" "0.000000"
# === Misc Options ===
Option "UseFastTLS" "2"
Option "BlockSignalsOnLock" "on"
Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
Option "ForceGenericCPU" "no"
# BusID "PCI:1:0:0" # no device found at config time
Screen 0
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "ATI Graphics Adapter"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
#Option "backingstore"

Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1680x1050"
ViewPort 0 0 # initial origin if mode is smaller than desktop
# Virtual 1280 1024
EndSubsection
EndSection
...

hello,
anyone a clue??????????????

michiel

Are there any errors or warnings still in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log?

I noticed in your .conf. Is this a LCD? 75 seems low vert refres, is all.

hi, thanx for the reply

Xorg.0.log only contains warnings:

(WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported
(WW) fglrx(0): Only single display is connected, DesktopOption will be ignored
(WW) fglrx(0): Cannot read colourmap from VGA. Will restore with default
(WW) fglrx(0): could not detect XFree86 version (query_status=-3)
(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)


yes my screen is a laptop LCD screen (res 1680x1050)

michiel

I don't know where to go from this. I did have a similar problem a few years ago with my P-III system. It had a ASUS P3B-F motherboard, which had problems with a voltage spike to the processor. I had to solve it with by soldering a capacitor between pins A1-A3 on the processor socket. The load caused by using X and scrolling a web page was enough to cause a hard lock.

I hope that your computer isn't a victim of this problem (although easily fixed).

i don't think thats the problem; under windows and linux in text mode i have no problems with high loads.

my colleges have the same model and mandrake is just working fine there; the only difference is the video card

michiel

try the "nolapic" parameter to the kernel.

nope - that didn't work...

getting desperate ;-)

michiel

Shouldn't that be "noapic"? You should be able to specify that on the kernel line of your crub configuration or in the append="bla bla bla" section of your /etc/lilo.conf stanza

yep . i noticed it should be 'noapic'

while lilo i hitted esc and entered "linux noapic"

but again..... it crashed
mm

nolapic is one possible requirement. (This was documented by the Mandrake 9.2 erratta).

However assuming that your installation itself is otherwise fine...

also try what you did like this.

linux noapic nousb noagp nopcmcia noapm noacpi

If this works then you'll need to try again eliminating each aguement one at a time until you get the freeze again.

Then you'll have found the offending item.

vectordrake:

You can also specify this on the command line to try out the parameters. Most of the Live CD's do this as well.

:confused: :confused:
OK; did that
with all options disabled
i opened 2 windows................................. it hangs!

michiel

No.

it's nolapic for "no local apic".

Well it seems you got a bit further.

Since you used all settings you've basically disabled all of the motherboard specific stuff that could have been hanging your machine.

This points to either a problem with the ATI drivers or a more serious problem with your system motherboards.

With all of those settings Linux should be running albeit slowly.

The noagp turns off AGP access which can be problematic on some motherboards that set their agp transfer rates too high... etc. This is not the way one would want to leave things but it suffices for testing and problem isolation.

Anyway "X" seems to exacerbate the situation in your case.

When the machine hangs now, can you ALT-BACKSPACE or CTRL-ALT-F1 to get back to the console?

Does your machine hang if you leave it running in text mode only?

Have you tried a "FAILSAFE" boot, and does this work?

hi,

1) when the machine hangs; it HANGS ; I can't return to any console and can't login using ssh.

2) it must be X because it never hangs while working in a console (even if Xorg is still running)

3) when booting in failsafe, I end up in a console (single user mode). Since the text mode "never" crashes; I issued "init 5"
to go graphical; notice that an mesa video driver is loaded instead of the ATI driver. Well, it hanged...............

maybe a hardware fault after all (but window$ runs fine)
michiel

well; another remark
when booting "linux noapic nolapic nousb noagp nopcmcia noapm noacpi" I still get usb, pcmcia,agp modules in the lsmod listing.
Is this normal??

michiel

I'm seeing serveral people complaining about the same problem under Xorg.

It may be that the ATI drivers are having problems under Xorg, whereas they may not have problems under XFree.

Can you go back to the stock drivers from Mandrake instead?

Just re-install the RPM's.

Re: Modules

Yes that is normal. They actually get reloaded as the drivers need them.

i' wondering of this isn't a hardware conflict of some sort ?

michiel

Here I found a comment that might bring light to this situation. Its not much, but it supports my theory that ATI is dragging their heels on making drivers for Linux. They don't want to keep up to date, for some reason. I guess that if you wait for a bit, they may have a driver written for the new X-servers (I'll cross my fingers, as I want to get a new vid card soon)

This thread on Kerneltrap seems to show hope, though. Write to ATI. I will as well. I'd like to buy from them again, but...

FWIW, I have two seperate Mandrake 10.1 CE machines that I installed ATI cards in...both XOrg 6.7, both kernel 2.6.8.1. One of these machines has random crashes and similar kernel messages to yours, most notably the mtrr one. It's an ATI 9200SE 64MB card, EPox RDA83 motherboard and 512 MB RAM, and I get random kernel panics...the machine halts in less than 36 hours consistently. It's a server most of the time so it happens regardless of X usage. I tried a bunch of things to no avail, but I had some sneaking suspicion about NFS usage being a trigger so I halted the NFS and SMB services....and the machine has been up for more than 72 hours...a new record. Sounds random, but worth trying anyway...

The other box is a desktop and runs X most of the time using an ATI 9600 (dual monitors) and a different motherboard...doesn't have the crashing problem. But the ATI driver 3.14.1 appears to leak memory like crazy in Neverwinter Nights. :/

mmh.\,

no its not the nfs or smb services, i'm now very sure its the video driver.
I just set "no_accel" to "yes" in the XFree86-4 config file and i don't get hangs anymore;
scrolling,moving is very very very slow though.

michiel

mdk 10.1 run Xorg 6.8? I've heard (from the #gentoo irc channel) that the ATI drivers break Xorg 6.8.x

Of course i have not had any problems installing MDK 10.1 with my 9800XT 256MB.

it could be a hardware problem, such as bad memory, or a block of bad memoy on the video memory.

did you try memtest to test the systems memory?

i think the option is memtest86 at boot, unless MDK didn't add this??

While searching for answers to your problem, I did come across a few hints that Xfree 4.2 would probably work with the ATI drivers, if you want to roll back what you're using until they write new drivers to be compatible with Xorg. Just a though.

memtest is a good idea as well. I didn't see it on the mandy disks when installing (but that was a few months ago now - when 10.1 was beta), but its a small download and can be run from floppy (which is how I got it originally). Cheers

well, i tried memtest86 (booted from hard disk) but after the boot it displays some system information, dies suddenly after 3 sec and does a warm start

i'll try Xfree 4.2 sometime later... (first i'll try 4.3 or is that the same as xorg 6.7?)
michiel

I don't think so. I believe 6.7 was 4.4 up to, but not including, the revision that had the licence changes in it.

Try memtest from a bootable floppy or cd and see if its different. You can't run it from within an OS, if I remember correctly.

Did you install memtest into Lilo/Grub so it's offered as a boot option?

If you ran it this way and it fails, this is a very bad sign.

If you tried running it from a running Linux system, the reboot is probably normal, as it probably overwrote the kernel!

i added it to my lilo.conf so i would show up in the bootloader, haven't tried it from floppy though(no time, and were i left those damn floppies):D

michiel

...another memtest source
 

BTW, (should have mentioned it before) Memtest86 is included on many live-cds, so if you have cds, you could perhaps get where you want to be with a small one like DSL or Puppy. Maybe a diagnostic cd like Astrumi might be a good idea as well (that one can even access WinNT/2000/XP registry hives and help you restore or even reset your password if corrupted as well).

I am going to edit this post in a few minutes after I read the whole thread again, as I have an idea...

ok,

today: ATI released their new video driver for linux and yes my card is "supported" (as in the previous driver).
In the manual (the solved issues part) it said: "The System no longer fails to respond when moving the mouse around on the screen on some systems"
This is where i was looking for.....
WELL..... it still hangs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, thanx ATI

(i'll try the memtest now if i find a floppy)
michiel

ahum, i forgot this baby has no floppy drive. tried another memtest, boot from hdd, boot from CD.and no results on two different machines. is this normal or am i just ot able to do a "make"?

btw i don't think its still amemory problem after ati aknowledged that "the system can stop responding" after moving the mouse. i'll just wait for the next *good* driver

michiel

Its a problem with the driver, likely. I'd try to get an email response from them about your issue. I will be building another system soon, as this kta-133 based machine is getting a bit long in the tooth. I don't think ATI will be my vid card of choice. This rage 128 pro will be my last, if this keeps up.

But, I will x me pinkies for you! (and keep looking for a fix...)

SOLVED

Xserver: xorg 6.7
driver : fglrx_4_3_0-8.10.19-1.i386.rpm

glxgears : 3620fps!!
fgl_glxgears : 700fps


michiel