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Old 03-08-2005, 12:57 PM   #1
loophole64
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Mandrake 10.1 installation fails at welcome.


When I try to install mandrake 10.1 using the 3 disc install, it brings up the page where it asks me to choose between install and more options. I hit enter, the blue bar goes across the status indicator, a black screen comes up with the mandrake logo in the upper left, where it appears to be checking for hardware and the text scrolls up the screen for a couple seconds. Then a black screen comes up that says 'welcome to mandrake 10.1' or similar at the top, and 'press <alt> for' something or other at the bottom. I can't read it because it lasts for about a quarter of a second. Then a blue screen comes up where it says 'sending kill process' etc, and then the computer reboots.

The checksum for the first iso image in the 3 disc set should be 7833f17c3fbe95581c48cf3848792d21. All the mirrors show that as well. The first time I downloaded it, I realized that the checksum of the iso i had was b9ab122c4f857025302dbee5870d703d. so I downloaded the iso again from a different server, but once again, the checksum comes out to be b9ab122c4f857025302dbee5870d703d. Is the checksum listed incorrect? Is it possible that I got the exact same corruption in the iso both times i downloaded it from 2 different servers? I used two seperate checksum programs

My hardware is as follows:
Soyo 6BA+III Motherboard
PIII 800
256MB RAM
20 GB Quantum Fireball HD
20 GB Maxtor HD
GeForce 256 DDR
Actiontec dialup modem
3Com 10/100 network card.
Monster 300 sound.
no USB devices attached.

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Old 03-08-2005, 02:59 PM   #2
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If the checksum on the downloaded ISO does not match the MD5 sum, the download is corrupt.

Things are different if you are running the checksum against a burned image.

Assume that your downloads are failing.
 
Old 03-08-2005, 03:53 PM   #3
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Can you think of any reason why my download would fail repeatedly? The first time I downloaded the file I used streambox vcr. I thought that might have screwed it up, so the second time I used Internet Explorer. Both corrupt files had the same incorrect checksum. Doesn't that strike you as strange?
 
Old 03-08-2005, 03:59 PM   #4
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MTU issues.

A bad upstream router.

Viruses.

Bad disk drivers.

Wrong or corrupt system file...

Drive data errors (WD drives are particularly nasty about this, as you can get data errors w/o any major symptoms... certain WD drives don't CRC the data stream, and a cable may pick up RF noise, corrupting the data...)...

etc.
etc.
etc.

The problem is that the MD5 error means that the image you have does NOT match the source.

I've seen times when an OS will pad out an EOF mark during write operations.

The file itself is fine, but the last sector returns a different value to the MD5 program.

However you don't know for sure if this is the case, and even then it's a bit suspcious.

Assume the MD5 sum the remote site returns is correct and that you are getting a bad when the download completes.
 
Old 03-08-2005, 05:52 PM   #5
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Ok, thanks much for your help. I'll just work on getting this iso downloaded properly. Interesting fact about the WD drives. I do in fact have a WD drive in this machine right now. Maybe if I download the file on my other machine I can get an intact image.
 
Old 03-08-2005, 08:22 PM   #6
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Well, I downloaded the file again, and this time the checksum was correct. I burned another CD, but I am having the exact same problem as stated in the first post of this thread. I tried disabling external cache in my bios, like someone suggested in a different thread, no change. Help?
 
Old 03-08-2005, 09:12 PM   #7
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I removed my sound card and my network card from my system. I unplugged my second hard drive, power and ide. I have played with virtually every setting in my bios. Same problem. This is really frustrating.
 
Old 03-08-2005, 10:35 PM   #8
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I tried the move cd, and it works ok.

I noticed that the point in which the 3-disc install program crashed is the point at which the move cd detects USB stuff. I wonder if this is some kind of USB problem.
 
Old 03-09-2005, 04:52 AM   #9
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You may want to unplug any and all USB devices until you have Mandrake up and running.

USB problems abound and many are external to Linux.
 
Old 03-09-2005, 08:48 AM   #10
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As I said in my first post, there are no USB devices attached. Maybe 10.1 just doesn't like my motherboard. It's an old Soyo board, and I don't think it was all that great to begin with. Maybe I should try an earlier version. Is there anywhere I could find mdk 10.0?
 
Old 03-09-2005, 09:50 AM   #11
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MDK 10 is available on the repositories.

A big change with 10.1 was it's move to the 2.6.8 kernel tree which may be what is giving your motherboard problems.

Is there any way to disable USB support in the bios that you can try?
 
Old 03-09-2005, 11:02 AM   #12
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The only option in my BIOS settings that has anything to do with USB is for IRQ assignment for USB. It can either be set to auto or I can assign the ports a specific IRQ (I think 1 - 12 or so?).

I'll check my manual to see if maybe there is a jumper on the board to disable USB.

Also, in the advanced options at the beginning of the installation, where you can choose between graphical install or text install, etc, there is an option listed at the bottom for ati0 and ati1 to choose between different kernal versions. ati0 is for kernal 2.6.something and ati1 is for kernal 2.4.something. I tried typing 'linux ati1' and the boot prompt there, but it still said 'loading ati0...' to start the boot process. What's the usage for this option? Can you actually install 10.1 with kernal 2.4, or am I misinterpreting this somehow? Sorry, I'm a newbie.
 
Old 03-09-2005, 11:26 AM   #13
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Yes you should be able to install using the 2.4 kernel and in turn this may rectify the USB problem.

Usually you do not type "linux atix"

The word "linux" itself specifies the kernel you are using.

Try just atiX instead, though I may be wrong.
 
Old 03-09-2005, 07:01 PM   #14
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ROCK STAR

I used ati1 and the boot prompt and I am now into the installation. Thanks a million opjose. I appreciate all the advice.
 
Old 03-10-2005, 04:41 AM   #15
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Glad to see you got it running.
 
  


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