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Old 12-19-2003, 06:20 PM   #1
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Lost sound after updating to kernel 2.6.0.1


Like the title says I've lost my sound (provided by a Soundblaster Live) when running with the newer kernel, and since Google didn't turn up anything useful I thought that I'd ask here for advise on how to get it back.

This is my first kernel upgrade, I switched from a 2.4.xx kernel. I have been testing some different OSS and Alsa drivers, but this does not seem to help. I've checked the run levels and made shure that my sound is turned on, but to no avail. I'm running Mandrake 9.2 on a 1.6 Ghz p4 Dell Optiplex GX240.

Ideas?
 
Old 12-19-2003, 06:30 PM   #2
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the obvious questions, what changed

do you still have a build of the 2.4 kernel?
did you change the modules to builting, or other way around?
you did compile your own 2.6.0.1 kernel?

i am about to switch, just to see what issues i get.
 
Old 12-19-2003, 06:33 PM   #3
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any messages,any error when you log in?do you see the alsa mixer's icon in your desktop on the right (if you're using KDE)?
 
Old 12-19-2003, 06:39 PM   #4
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I have same problem, I have SoundBlaster LIVE! and I just went from Mandrake 8.0 to Mandrake 9.2. The sound works in Windows 98 and worked even better (it was louder and clearer) in Mdk8.0. Now it's as though the card works but the sound is muted or the speakers aren't plugged in. very strange.

I checked. The sound is not muted, and the speakers are indeed plugged in.

???
 
Old 12-19-2003, 06:45 PM   #5
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Any messages,any error when you log in?
The first time I booted into the 2.6.0.1 kernel there where an error message that it could not load the sound properly. This disappeared after I started checking other sound drivers. And interestingly enough this did not reoccur when I tried the old driver.

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do you see the alsa mixer's icon in your desktop on the right (if you're using KDE)?
Yes

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do you still have a build of the 2.4 kernel?
Yep

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you did compile your own 2.6.0.1 kernel?
no, I used urpmi. and followed the instructions on http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/kernelupdate.php
 
Old 12-19-2003, 06:47 PM   #6
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Change the driver to "audegy" and make shure that your sound is turned up.

This fixed it for me when running the older kernel.
 
Old 12-19-2003, 06:58 PM   #7
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to narrow down, a broad problem
kernel
module
GUI
driver software
mixer sofware

please post the results of booting the old kernel and trying your sound out...
 
Old 12-19-2003, 07:04 PM   #8
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The sound works just fine with the old kernel.
 
Old 12-19-2003, 07:22 PM   #9
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so most likly your audio tools are fine, along with gui tools
and it is either a kernel error, or ?

post output of
lsmod
under both the old and the new kernel.

i've never used urpmi or whatever, so i'll follow your link and see what it is, why not compile your own?
 
Old 12-19-2003, 07:28 PM   #10
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This is under the old kernel

Module Size Used by Not tainted
parport_pc 25544 1 (autoclean)
lp 8160 0 (autoclean)
parport 34472 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
r128 81556 13
agpgart 48292 3 (autoclean)
ipt_TOS 1592 12 (autoclean)
ipt_REJECT 3960 4 (autoclean)
ipt_LOG 4184 6 (autoclean)
ipt_state 1080 16 (autoclean)
ip_nat_irc 3024 0 (unused)
ip_nat_tftp 2832 0 (unused)
ip_nat_ftp 3696 0 (unused)
ip_conntrack_irc 4400 1
ip_conntrack_tftp 2672 1
ip_conntrack_ftp 5168 1
ipt_multiport 1176 1 (autoclean)
ipt_conntrack 1560 0 (autoclean)
iptable_filter 2316 1 (autoclean)
iptable_mangle 2712 1 (autoclean)
iptable_nat 20814 3 (autoclean) [ip_nat_irc ip_nat_tftp ip_nat_ftp]
ip_conntrack 26468 6 (autoclean) [ipt_state ip_nat_irc ip_nat_tftp ip_nat_ftp ip_conntrack_irc ip_conntrack_tftp ip_conntrack_ftp ipt_conntrack iptable_nat]
ip_tables 15072 11 [ipt_TOS ipt_REJECT ipt_LOG ipt_state ipt_multiport ipt_conntrack iptable_filter iptable_mangle iptable_nat]
audigy 71276 0
ac97_codec 15828 0 [audigy]
sound 71528 0 [audigy]
soundcore 6340 0 [audigy sound]
nfsd 75280 8 (autoclean)
af_packet 14856 1 (autoclean)
sr_mod 19384 0 (autoclean)
floppy 55932 0
3c59x 29680 1 (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-1 3484 1 (autoclean)
ntfs 77292 1 (autoclean)
supermount 84032 3 (autoclean)
ide-cd 33956 0
cdrom 32608 0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
ide-scsi 11376 0
scsi_mod 106176 2 [sr_mod ide-scsi]
usb-uhci 25136 0 (unused)
usbcore 74988 1 [usb-uhci]
rtc 9004 0 (autoclean)
ext3 60048 2
jbd 39264 2 [ext3]
 
Old 12-19-2003, 07:32 PM   #11
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This is under the new kernel:

Module Size Used by
nfsd 177440 8
exportfs 5856 1 nfsd
parport_pc 34956 1
lp 11684 0
parport 40616 2 parport_pc,lp
sg 36152 0
r128 90124 26
md5 3872 1
ipv6 235840 14
ipt_TOS 2272 12
ipt_REJECT 6592 4
ipt_LOG 5120 6
ipt_state 1728 16
ip_nat_irc 3952 0
ip_nat_tftp 3216 0
ip_nat_ftp 4560 0
ip_conntrack_irc 71092 1 ip_nat_irc
ip_conntrack_tftp 3348 0
ip_conntrack_ftp 71668 1 ip_nat_ftp
ipt_multiport 1824 1
ipt_conntrack 2304 0
iptable_filter 2624 1
iptable_mangle 2624 1
iptable_nat 22668 3 ip_nat_irc,ip_nat_tftp,ip_nat_ftp
ip_conntrack 30992 9 ipt_state,ip_nat_irc,ip_nat_tftp,ip_nat_ftp,ip_conntrack_irc,ip_conntrack_tftp,ip_conntrack_ftp,ipt_ conntrack,iptable_nat
ip_tables 16640 9 ipt_TOS,ipt_REJECT,ipt_LOG,ipt_state,ipt_multiport,ipt_conntrack,iptable_filter,iptable_mangle,iptab le_nat
snd_pcm_oss 51236 0
snd_mixer_oss 17344 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_emu10k1 83940 0
snd_rawmidi 23584 1 snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm 93540 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1
snd_timer 24388 1 snd_pcm
snd_seq_device 7976 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_ac97_codec 57348 1 snd_emu10k1
snd_page_alloc 11620 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem 4448 1 snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep 8896 1 snd_emu10k1
snd 51972 10 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,sn d_util_mem,snd_hwdep
soundcore 8608 1 snd
af_packet 19944 2
sr_mod 16964 0
floppy 59348 0
3c59x 38568 0
nls_iso8859_1 3904 1
 
Old 12-19-2003, 07:36 PM   #12
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Quote:
why not compile your own?
I'm a bit lazy I guess, that's why I'm using Mandrake and not Slackware or Debian as everybody told me that it's much easier to setup

Is the extra mile worth it on Slackware?
 
Old 12-20-2003, 11:27 PM   #13
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it's not really an extra mile, i have had less headaches with slack, because i don't like my os to think it knows what i want, (i also only use gui's when nessacary.) you would learn alot more, and get a lot better configuration with slack, (in my opinion) but ultimatly it's your choice (that's the buety of open source)..

that's interesting, the new kernel loads a lot of specific drivers for parts of that sound card, but try just out of hope for miracles, modprobe -a sound and see what it does..
 
Old 12-21-2003, 07:11 AM   #14
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Nothing I'm afraid.

No printout, and no sound.
 
Old 12-21-2003, 08:04 AM   #15
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This will sound really bizarre and un-logical but when I first used 2.6.0 I had no sound. My drivers loaded and alsa mixer worked kmixer worked aumixer worked. XMMS worked and the mixer showed sounds but I had no sound. I looked in /dev and verified all the proper devices. It made no sense to me. Of course I am stubborn so I was up late at night working on this, and then for no apparent reason I clicked on a kmixer channel, I have no idea what the channel was for, it was way over on the right side of kmixer where I seldom journey. Any way KABOOM! I had my speakers turned up full-throttle it was 1:00AM, everone in the house was sleeping. I went over backwards in my chair with a cup of hot coffee in my hand. The wife jumped out of bed and started screamin' the kids all came running into the room. I'm rolling on the floor trying to rip my scalding hot shirt off, the computer is blasting Rob Zombie's Living Dead Girl. Hell even the cat came in to stare at me in bewilderment.

So my advice to you is don't drink scalding hot coffee when messing with mixer settings.

If this helped then click my afferno button.
 
  


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