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Old 04-23-2005, 01:14 PM   #1
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LE2005 -> no sound


Hello,
I have just updated my Mandrake (Official 10.1) to the LE2005. Everything went all right during the installation but when I turned it off later, it freezed.

Now it freezes during startup sequence just after initialising ALSA. When I swich to interactive mode and choose not to load the sound server (first thing that comes up after initialising ALSA) then I can boot my computer but with no sound (of course !).

Eventually when I try and start the sound server in graphic mode (using configure your computer), I have to xkill the program.

Do you have any idea what this could come from?

Thanks!
 
Old 04-23-2005, 01:41 PM   #2
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sound problem

djib,

Try from the start menu going to "system--->configuration--->KDE--->sound system" and disable it. Also follow the same path except to "look-n-feel--->system notifications" and check the "turn off sound" for all apps box and click. This has helped me in the past with similar problems, most recently with Mandiva 2005 LE, which wouldn't finish loading KDE until I shut system sound down. BTW sound works great now, too. I think KDE is getting too clever for it's own good.

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Old 04-24-2005, 04:37 AM   #3
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Hello Catworld,
I don't get your point well... Do you mean that by disabling the sound I will have the sound working ?
I'll try what you say anyway, but it seems strange to me!
 
Old 04-24-2005, 06:45 AM   #4
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only "KDE sounds"

There's multiple critters going by the way of "sound system" Follow those paths to where I sent you and you'll see what I mean. The KDE "sound system" dialog says that by disabling it, legacy devices will again be abvle to use the sound card. The KDE "sound system" seeks to control throughput from those legacy apps as well as give you, literally, all those "bells and whistles" which I can do without anyway. But as I said before I think KDE is sometimes too clever for itself.

On that score, and related, if you ever have a problem with a multimedia app, check it's properties on the menu from where you're selecting it. If it says "soundwrapper" before the path of the app, try erasing the "soundwrapper" bit. I've had that fix not a few startup problems, notably with xmms.

But. yeah, you're going to try shutting down KDE sound so alsa and the rest of it can handle it, in the hopes this is your problem getting KDE all the way up. It was for me just the other day as I said previous.

Hope this helps,

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Old 04-24-2005, 07:21 AM   #5
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Ok, I followed what you said. It didn't change much. I still have no sound and a freeze during the bootup sequence if not in interactive mode.

I don't think my problem is related to KDE at all. It's just the sound service that won't start. For example when I do /etc/init.d/sound start, it freezes again. When in KDE configuration pannel I try and start the sound service it stoles.

I don't know how I can reset the sound service, I mean if there is any way or reinstalling it ?
 
Old 04-24-2005, 09:12 AM   #6
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hmmm...

Apparently I misread your problem. Mine was KDE would get almost near loaded and lock. Yours is locking at the sound mod...

So what card do you have and what module is it using? Go interactive w/o sound, run MCC--->hardware and look at the card and let us know. Is it even pci? If not sndconfig is needed. It could also be an unsupported card, (in 2005 LE) but this usually doesn't cause problems. (other than no sound!)

Another option might be to try a different card, one known compatible, of course. Could be in the rush to get 2005 LE out something was forgotten in the mix, breaking your previously functional sound. Such has happened before with all sorts of modules other than sound.

Good luck, anyway. If you're brave enough try uninstalling/reinstalling sound related stuff.

Oh, and another thing, did you chose "upgrade" or "install" while loading 2005 LE. I NEVER use "upgrade" as it ALWAYS causes problems. You should try an "install" of 2005 LE, choose "use existing partitions" when prompted and make sure not to format /home. (which NOT formatting is default anyway) This is general Mandriva practice from my looonnnggg experience. NEVER use the "upgrade" option. If you did, I'll say that's a good chance of being the source of your problem. Run an install after you've exhausted other options to your satisfaction and see if that doesn't help. (PS- I have NEVER lost my data in /home doing an "install." For the life of me I don't know why Mandriva even HAS an "upgrade" option!)

Hope this helps...

Cliff Jones
 
Old 04-24-2005, 09:47 AM   #7
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Hey
My card uses the right module, I know it because I use the same under Debian and it works, and it use to work in my old Mandrake system.
I did an upgrade instead of an install... to do an install do I need to burn a cd or can I install it from the network ? What sources do I input to do a network install ?
Thanks...
 
Old 04-24-2005, 09:56 AM   #8
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eew!

Quote:
Originally posted by djib
Hey
My card uses the right module, I know it because I use the same under Debian and it works, and it use to work in my old Mandrake system.
I did an upgrade instead of an install... to do an install do I need to burn a cd or can I install it from the network ? What sources do I input to do a network install ?
Thanks...
Just posted in a Mandriva forum that the 2005 LE ftp sources don't work... you will have to download the cd's, (or dvd if you have a dvd burner) burn 'em and go that route. Waiting to hear back as to why network sources are not yet present from Mandriva, but about 10 tries failed to connect. Still, I'm even more sure now your problem was the "upgrade." Get the cd's and good luck! There's always going back to 10.1, which I may have to do if they don't iron out some serious killer flaws with USB external storage devices...

Cliff Jones
 
Old 04-25-2005, 08:22 PM   #9
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I was having problems with USB not working. I was advised to enable 'acpi' in MCC Servers and reboot. My USB card reader, camera and mouse now all work. This apparently also fixes some sound problems for some people

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