kdeinit using too much recources.

English_Man · 02-03-2005, 01:57 PM

For some reason, I dont know what, kdeinit is using so much of my system. It is becoming slugish. I am running Mandrake 10.1 Offlicial Powerpack,

The problem happens under both KDE and GNOME and th proces seams to be 'kdeinit: kded
'

I have even re-installed mandrake, but it didnt help.

Here is a screen shot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...an/kdeinit.png

Thanks in advance:

E_man

rjlee · 02-03-2005, 03:08 PM

kdeinit is the generic launcher process for KDE applications. Any KDE application will show up under top as kdeinit due to an optimisation used to speed up process loading. You should probably identify which process has this agressive behaviour.

Look at the PID (column 1) — in this case, 4457. There will be a file called /proc/pid/cmdline which tells you the command used to launch the process. In a terminal:

Code:

cat /proc/4457/cmdline

This will tell you which process is actually causing this behaviour.

You can also make the process nicer (swap out more so it disrupts your system less) using renice:

Code:

renice +19 4457

If it's a process that's stuck in an infinite loop, then you can kill it using:

Code:

kill -TERM 4457 || sleep 3s && kill -KILL 4457

But these are both very blunt tools to apply after the event; it's better to find out what's really causing the problem so you can diagnose and cure it.

English_Man · 02-03-2005, 03:17 PM

Well I rebooted and all seams ok.

The only thing I changed was I unplugged my MP3 Player from the USB port.

When I plug it back in I will see if your advice will help.

Thanks for your help.

E_Man

English_Man · 02-04-2005, 06:10 PM

Ok, I tried every thing mentioned above, but it didnt really help.

What I am trying to do, is make my MP3 player work with the system. Its USB. I want to be able to browse it, as I would any external device and copy to and from it.

I have used it under Mandrake 10.0 without a problem, but not under 10.1.

What happens, is when I connect the USB cable, the system goes slow, no new GUI programs launce, such as konquer file browser, and the system load is sky high.

I found this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ght=mp3+player about getting a MP3 player to work, you need 'usbdevfs' enabled in the kernel. How do I do this? and would it fix my problem.

Just to recap, I have MDK 10.1 Powerpack, and a 'iRiver iHP-140', 40GB USB MP3 player.

Thanks in advance!

E_Man

rjlee · 02-05-2005, 07:03 AM

I would suspect that you have usbdevfs loaded automatically (when you plug in the USB device). If not, just do

Code:

su -c 'modprobe usbdevfs'

and then, to check which modules are loaded use

Code:

/sbin/lsmod

It will probably not fix your problem; we haven't even diagnosed what the problem is. What is the command-line (cat /proc/pid/cmdline) of the process that is eating your CPU?

English_Man · 02-05-2005, 08:24 AM

Hi, thanks for your reply.

As a result of

Code:

/sbin/lsmod

I recived, sorry its quite a lot;

Code:

[english_man@c-fd86e055 english_man]$ /sbin/lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
md5                     3584  1
ipv6                  230916  204
rfcomm                 32348  0
l2cap                  19876  5 rfcomm
bluetooth              39076  4 rfcomm,l2cap
snd-seq-midi            6624  0
snd-emu10k1-synth       6656  0
snd-emux-synth         34976  1 snd-emu10k1-synth
snd-seq-virmidi         5632  1 snd-emux-synth
snd-seq-midi-emul       7200  1 snd-emux-synth
snd-seq-oss            31232  0
snd-seq-midi-event      6080  3 snd-seq-midi,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-seq-oss
snd-seq                47440  8 snd-seq-midi,snd-emux-synth,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-seq-midi-emul,snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event
snd-pcm-oss            49480  0
snd-mixer-oss          17376  1 snd-pcm-oss
snd-emu10k1            90728  1 snd-emu10k1-synth
snd-rawmidi            19300  3 snd-seq-midi,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-emu10k1
snd-pcm                81800  2 snd-pcm-oss,snd-emu10k1
snd-timer              20356  2 snd-seq,snd-pcm
snd-seq-device          6344  7 snd-seq-midi,snd-emu10k1-synth,snd-emux-synth,snd-seq-oss,snd-seq,snd-emu10k1,snd-rawmidi
snd-ac97-codec         69392  1 snd-emu10k1
snd-page-alloc          7400  2 snd-emu10k1,snd-pcm
snd-util-mem            3232  2 snd-emux-synth,snd-emu10k1
snd-hwdep               6916  2 snd-emux-synth,snd-emu10k1
snd                    45988  13 snd-emux-synth,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-seq-oss,snd-seq,snd-pcm-oss,snd-mixer-oss,snd-emu10k1,snd-rawmidi,snd-pcm,snd-timer,snd-seq-device,snd-ac97-codec,snd-hwdep
soundcore               7008  1 snd
af_packet              16072  2
floppy                 55088  0
eth1394                17000  0
8139too                20928  0
mii                     4224  1 8139too
ide-cd                 37280  0
cdrom                  37724  1 ide-cd
ohci1394               30788  0
ieee1394              292056  2 eth1394,ohci1394
loop                   12520  0
supermount             34804  1
intel-agp              19584  1
agpgart                27752  1 intel-agp
usb-storage            65504  0
scsi_mod              104044  1 usb-storage
uhci-hcd               28752  0
usbcore               103172  4 usb-storage,uhci-hcd
ext3                  120680  2
jbd                    49080  1 ext3
[english_man@c-fd86e055 english_man]$

As a result of

Code:

su -c 'modprobe usbdevfs'

I recived;

Code:

[english_man@c-fd86e055 english_man]$ su -c 'modprobe usbdevfs'
Password:
bash: line 1: modprobe: command not found
[english_man@c-fd86e055 english_man]$

I cant find which PID I need to investigate now, I rebooted since the earlier SS, Here is a new SS of my latest top: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...n/c9a77236.png

Here is the output of 'ps aux'

Code:

[english_man@c-fd86e055 english_man]$ ps aux
USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root         1  0.0  0.0  1408  496 ?        S    01:18   0:00 init [5]
root         2  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SN   01:18   0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root         3  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   01:18   0:00 [events/0]
root         4  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   01:18   0:00 [khelper]
root         5  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   01:18   0:00 [kblockd/0]
root        34  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    01:18   0:00 [kapmd]
root        36  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    01:18   0:00 [pdflush]
root        37  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    01:18   0:00 [pdflush]
root        39  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   01:18   0:00 [aio/0]
root        38  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    01:18   0:05 [kswapd0]
root       144  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    01:18   0:00 [kseriod]
root       268  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    01:18   0:00 [kjournald]
root       406  0.0  0.0  1388  360 ?        S<s  01:18   0:00 udevd
root       755  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        D    01:18   0:00 [khubd]
root      1095  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    01:18   0:01 [kjournald]
root      1311  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    01:18   0:00 [khpsbpkt]
root      1321  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    01:18   0:00 [knodemgrd_0]
root      2373  0.0  0.0  1416  484 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 /sbin/ifplugd -w -b -i eth0
root      2506  0.0  0.1  1940  960 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 /sbin/dhclient -1 -q -lf /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases
rpc       2553  0.0  0.1  1536  560 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 portmap
root      2567  0.0  0.1  1460  580 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 syslogd -m 0 -a /var/spool/postfix/dev/log
root      2576  0.0  0.2  2096 1216 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 klogd -2
xfs       2959  0.0  0.8  5724 4372 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 xfs -port -1 -daemon -droppriv -user xfs
72        2974  0.0  0.2  2052 1052 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 dbus-daemon-1 --system
root      2992  0.0  0.1  1616  680 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 hcid: processing events
root      3003  0.0  0.0  1452  512 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 sdpd
root      3024  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   01:18   0:00 [krfcommd]
daemon    3049  0.0  0.1  1524  548 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
root      3058  0.0  0.1  2436  692 ?        S    01:18   0:00 /usr/bin/mdkkdm -nodaemon
root      3068  7.1  4.6 60756 24216 ?       S    01:18  59:29 /etc/X11/X -deferglyphs 16 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-gtgmyI
root      3080  0.0  0.1  1988  860 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid
root      3165  0.0  0.2  3188 1396 ?        S    01:18   0:00 -:0
root      3280  0.0  0.2  2760 1056 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 /usr/lib/postfix/master
postfix   3288  0.0  0.2  4132 1508 ?        S    01:18   0:00 tlsmgr -l -t fifo -u -c
root      3479  0.0  0.1  1448  604 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 crond
root      3627  0.0  0.5  7008 3092 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_ACCES
root      3634  0.0  0.4  4104 2188 ?        S    01:18   0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/advxsplitlogfile
apache    3636  0.0  0.6  7176 3340 ?        S    01:18   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_ACCES
apache    3637  0.0  0.6  7176 3340 ?        S    01:18   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_ACCES
apache    3638  0.0  0.6  7176 3340 ?        S    01:18   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_ACCES
apache    3639  0.0  0.6  7040 3148 ?        S    01:18   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_ACCES
apache    3640  0.0  0.6  7040 3148 ?        S    01:18   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_ACCES
501       3656  0.0  0.2  2860 1496 ?        S    01:18   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startkde
root      3741  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty1     Ss+  01:18   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty1
root      3742  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty2     Ss+  01:18   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2
root      3743  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty3     Ss+  01:18   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3
root      3744  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty4     Ss+  01:18   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4
root      3745  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty5     Ss+  01:18   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5
root      3746  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty6     Ss+  01:18   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6
501       4151  0.0  0.7 11112 3736 ?        S    01:18   0:00 /usr/bin/bluez-pin --dbus
501       4192  0.0  3.7 28280 19560 ?       S    01:18   0:30 /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/mdkapplet
501       4222  0.0  3.9 28052 20460 ?       S    01:18   0:43 /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/net_applet
501       4238  0.0  0.1  2432  700 ?        S    01:18   0:00 dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session
501       4239  0.0  0.2  2052 1044 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 dbus-daemon-1 --fork --print-pid 8 --print-address 6 --sessi
501       4249  0.0  0.1  2636  976 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 s2u --daemon=yes
501       4264  0.0  1.2 14756 6220 ?        S    01:18   0:06 magicdev
501       4279  0.0  0.4  3808 2324 ?        S    01:18   0:00 /usr/lib/gconfd-2 13
501       4291  0.0  1.6 22288 8540 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 kdeinit: Running...
501       4294  0.0  1.6 22168 8632 ?        S    01:18   0:00 kdeinit: dcopserver --nosid
501       4296  0.0  1.9 24120 10224 ?       S    01:18   0:00 kdeinit: klauncher
501       4299  0.0  2.3 25492 12360 ?       S    01:18   0:01 kdeinit: kded
501       4300  0.0  0.3  3288 1652 ?        Ss   01:18   0:00 famd
501       4312  0.0  1.2 10856 6304 ?        S    01:19   0:02 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi
501       4316  0.0  2.8 29544 14928 ?       S    01:19   0:12 kdeinit: knotify
501       4321  0.0  0.0  1400  300 ?        S    01:19   0:00 kwrapper ksmserver
501       4323  0.0  2.2 23956 11552 ?       S    01:19   0:00 kdeinit: ksmserver
501       4324  0.0  2.6 25140 13536 ?       S    01:19   0:03 kdeinit: kwin -session 117f000001000110486560100000051560000
501       4340  0.0  3.8 32376 19844 ?       S    01:19   0:14 kdeinit: kdesktop
501       4343  0.0  1.7 23764 9276 ?        S    01:19   0:00 kdeinit: kio_file file /tmp/ksocket-english_man/klauncherdMM
501       4344  0.0  3.2 28544 16928 ?       S    01:19   0:32 kdeinit: kicker
501       4353  0.0  2.3 24196 11960 ?       S    01:19   0:00 kdeinit: khotkeys
501       4354  0.0  2.4 23696 12532 ?       S    01:19   0:00 kwikdisk -session 117f000001000110486560200000051560004_1107
501       4360  0.0  2.8 27908 14800 ?       S    01:19   0:03 korgac --miniicon korganizer
501       4387  0.0  2.9 27396 15208 ?       S    01:19   0:44 kdeinit: konsole
501       4391  0.0  0.3  3056 1808 pts/0    Ss   01:19   0:00 /bin/bash
501       4425  0.1  0.1  2004 1020 pts/0    S+   01:20   1:35 top
501       4429  0.0  0.2  2880 1536 ?        S    01:20   0:00 /bin/bash /home/english_man/azureus/azureus
501       4453  0.0 21.1 389556 109296 ?     Sl   01:20   0:29 java -Xms16m -Xmx128m -cp /home/english_man/azureus/Azureus2
501       4476  0.0  0.2  2848 1436 ?        S    01:20   0:00 /bin/bash /usr/bin/amsn
501       4484 13.3  2.1 13752 10980 ?       S    01:20 111:51 wish /usr/share/amsn/amsn
501       4729  0.0  0.3  2996 1628 ?        S    01:21   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
501       4742  0.0  0.3  3024 1632 ?        S    01:21   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-0.10.1/run-mozilla.sh /usr/
501       4747  0.5 12.5 125508 64616 ?      Sl   01:21   4:13 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-0.10.1/mozilla-firefox-bin
501       4763  0.0  0.3  3056 1808 pts/1    Ss   01:21   0:00 /bin/bash
501       5379  0.0  1.1 15520 5744 ?        S    01:32   0:00 /usr/bin/kdesud
apache   16445  0.0  0.6  7040 3148 ?        S    04:08   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_ACCES
postfix   3960  0.0  0.2  2908 1224 ?        S    11:23   0:00 qmgr -l -t fifo -u -c
postfix  12837  0.0  0.2  2876 1120 ?        S    14:37   0:00 pickup -l -t fifo -u -c -o content_filter  -o receive_overri
root     14228  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        D    15:07   0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root     14229  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    15:07   0:00 [usb-storage]
501      14344  0.0  2.6 25684 13732 ?       S    15:09   0:00 kdeinit: kio_uiserver
501      14353  0.0  2.3 24704 12124 ?       SN   15:09   0:00 kdeinit: kio_thumbnail thumbnail /tmp/ksocket-english_man/kl
501      14355  0.4  3.4 29340 17844 ?       S    15:09   0:01 kdeinit: kwrite /home/english_man/Desktop/lq
501      14359  0.0  1.8 23876 9612 ?        S    15:09   0:00 kdeinit: kio_file file /tmp/ksocket-english_man/klauncherdMM
501      14588  1.7  3.9 33220 20616 ?       S    15:15   0:01 kdeinit: konqueror --silent
501      14593  0.2  2.3 24608 11908 ?       SN   15:15   0:00 kdeinit: kio_thumbnail thumbnail /tmp/ksocket-english_man/kl
501      14630  4.9  3.1 26400 16412 ?       S    15:15   0:01 ksnapshot -caption KSnapshot -icon ksnapshot.png -miniicon k
501      14646  0.0  1.7 23632 9232 ?        S    15:16   0:00 kdeinit: kio_file file /tmp/ksocket-english_man/klauncherdMM
501      14655  0.0  0.1  2248  740 pts/1    R+   15:16   0:00 ps aux
[english_man@c-fd86e055 english_man]$

Thanks again!

E_Man

rjlee · 02-05-2005, 08:50 AM

usbdevfs isn't listed in the output of lsmod, so you don't have it loaded. (This doesn't mean it won't be automatically loaded when you plug in a USB device).

You might need to give the complete path to modprobe:

Code:

su -c '/sbin/modprobe usbdevfs'

There isn't anything swamping your CPU in the new screenshot. You'd be better off reproducing the problem, then running top again to find the offending process' PID, then looking at its cmdline file to see which command it is.

English_Man · 02-10-2005, 03:32 PM

Everything is fixed now.

I upgraded the Kernel from '2.6.8.1-12' to the version '2.6.8.1-24' and all is working great.

I guess there was a USB fix in this version.

E_Man