Is it curtains for Mandriva..???

floppywhopper · 09-19-2010, 06:18 PM

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Why? What's wrong with it remaining an RPM based system?

There's nothing "wrong" with rpms
it's just that the linux world seems to be moving more and more in that direction, as in, more distros coming out based on Debian.

floppy

{BBI}Nexus{BBI} · 09-20-2010, 01:17 PM

Further information available here: Mandriva forks to Mageia Linux

GlennsPref · 11-04-2010, 04:39 AM

I love Mandy too. since Mandrake 9.1/10

I hope they find a solution too,

regards Glenn

Amdx2_x64 · 11-04-2010, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ofaring

That is unfortunate news. Mandrake was the first distro I used which allowed me to get my feet wet without completely overwhelming me with the sheer amount which had to be read and learned. It was a phenomenal distro in its day.

It was the same for me. Mandrake was the first distro I ever really got into (Though Suse was the first one I tried, Mandrake was the first one I loved.) But after they acquired Connectiva, things seemed to slowly go downhill.

Mandriva (Mandrake just sounds better.) will never die. It will just evolve. That's the beauty of the open source community.

Hoppa · 11-21-2010, 07:07 PM

Well i hope something good comes out of all this, its been my favorite distro for a long time, and everything always works perfectly.
sad news.

CincinnatiKid · 11-23-2010, 10:13 AM

Wow, this is not good news. Mandrake was the first Linux distro I ever tried, in 2000. Since then I have hopped to man different distros, including Redhat 9, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, Slackware. I just came back to Mandriva 2010, and now this news!

Drakeo · 11-23-2010, 10:28 AM

I read a lot about this so who keeps doing the upgrading because it is still going on.

ichase · 11-23-2010, 11:51 AM

If you look at the long list of contributors, the vast majority either worked directly for Mandriva or were contributors to it. Other than a name change to Mageia, I can only expect to see this being a continuation of Mandriva 2010.1 but as mentioned with a different name. So in the grand scheme of things, all is not lost but will only continue to get better. And most of the die hard Mandriva folks will more than likely still call it Mandriva . I still see the name Mandrake floating around in reference to more recent releases.
Let's face it, we are all creatures of habit.
Like the anticipation of a long awaited movie, I sit back with my popcorn, feet propped up awaiting the start of Mageia.
Looks like we may not have to wait to long to see the release: Mandriva to Fork in December

They say the Logo is going to be introduced very soon. Curious to see that as well.

Drakeo · 11-24-2010, 06:24 AM

I think when Pclinux goes 64 bit I would probably spend more time on it. last winter I started rebuild my own 64 bit pclinux. Like the mandriva team I got way over my head with simple sidelines.

I have no idea what Mageia means (may be I missed reading it somewhere) so I am a little bit old fashioned so guide my thinking and help me to be inspired give me a phonetic spelling so I pronounce it correct. Like Slackware But Redhat I never did get that. anybody remember redhat gold edition? Ubuntu took a lot of time letting people understand there name.

Mandrake was simple it is a large penguin. Debian well lets look at old girl friend pictures lol. Since Mageia ( My inspired thought stands for morning sun on flying penguin lol) one thing I really do not like about the rpm based systems and deb systems and rpm apt-get systems when I want to install a program I want it all not the 25 packages that make one. this was and all ways will be a maintainer nightmare.
so building my own rpm based system years ago from source was what I think worked for me.
I called it My Way. A fork of your way. I am actually excited to see the New spin off soon.

ichase · 11-24-2010, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Drakeo

I have no idea what Mageia means (may be I missed reading it somewhere) so I am a little bit old fashioned so guide my thinking and help me to be inspired give me a phonetic spelling so I pronounce it correct.

Drakeo,
Mageia (magic in greek, maybe a play on what mandriva used to be called - mandrake, i believe there was a magician called mandrake)

Ian

1jnike · 11-24-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nigelc

I really like Mandriva It seems to be much better than Ubuntu.

I agree, Mandriva 2010 is too good to stop, I hope it will live on under a new guise.

nigelc · 11-25-2010, 12:22 AM

Well, the updates are still coming.

GlennsPref · 11-25-2010, 04:56 AM

Tempted to reply before this, but not too much to say, except, I'm following.....

Worked till now, and still working.

Been with mandy since 10.0

and it has taught me a lot.

I've tried others, like suse, fedora, and that's about it for full blown gui os's other than M$windows.

I first got a taste with rh5.2 in 98, then knoppix in 2000, and debian.

A magazine I subscribe to, atomicmpc.com.au, suggested a tutorial in setting up linux as a headless server.

At that time here in Aust, broad-band bandwidth was at a premium, still is,

so a proxy server was a good idea. It was introduced with Mandrake 9.2 (I think).

Mandrake 10.0 was easy to get, so that's where I really started with a GNU/Linux install.

I still have M$win for printing (lexmark x1195)and some games HL2 CS:S.

I'll be following on,

recently I have donated to OSS projects, like Firefox's no-script and download-helper,

Next year I hope to subscribe to a distro like Mageia.

I won't be jumping ship too soon,

Regards Glenn

jeevanism · 11-27-2010, 06:49 AM

Mandriva is still alive and big surprise are on the way...

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After the wonderful news that Mandriva would be continuing as usual despite financial difficulties and an exodus of developers comes the technical specifications and other tidbits for Mandriva 2011. There are quite a few exciting changes ahead, many of which prove that Mandriva is still a cutting edge distribution.

With 2011, Mandriva will be switching to RPM5. This news was announced by Per Øyvind Karlsen last week and is the first item in the list. RPM5 is actually a fork of RPM with the main goals of supporting XAR, an XML based archiving format, and featuring an integrated dependency resolver. This move has been in the works for quite some time but Mandriva 2011 will be the first release fully committed. Per Øyvind Karlsen said RPM5, "is the only sensible choice." Relatedly, their software center is scheduled a face-lift for a "more modern and simple to use interface."

Mandriva 2011 will be using the Galbraith Latency patch whether the kernel that will be used has it or not - meaning they will backport it if necessary. This latency patch, first brought to wide attention by Phoronix.com, is said to help speed up desktop processes especially in the areas of graphic and video rendering.

It is listed that Mandriva would be adopting systemd for the boot process. Several other distributions started out trying to move to systemd, but so far, they have changed their minds due to difficulties associated with such a major subsystem replacement. But Mandriva is going to give it the ole college try for 2011. The advantages of systemd are faster boots for some setups because of parallel, early background, and dependency booting of processes.

Like several other distributions have done, most of Mandriva's configuration tools will be integrated into the KDE Control Center (System Settings) in 2011.

All the logins and desktops are getting new a new look and improved resource consumption. No further details on any of these items are given at this time, but it's always exciting to see what the new releases will look like.

The installer is supposed to be simplified in order to be more new user-friendly. Desktop selection and installation summary steps will be removed, meaning those will personal preferences or cranky hardware will have to wait until after the install.

During this cycle, Cooker will no longer be frozen before release and instead continue to be developed in parallel. The release code will be branched off and Cooker will proceed as a rolling release.

Finally, something originally asked for over three years ago is finally being implemented. A new user Welcome application will be added in order to help new and migrating users to acclimate to Mandriva. Again, no further details what will exactly be included, but one can speculate it will give links to online resources such as forums and documentation; perhaps a tour of the desktop, menu, and applications; and maybe offer to install popular applications, codecs, and drivers.

And unfortunately, there are still no plans posted about a 64-bit One release. One has the advantage of being shipped with proprietary codecs and drivers that aren't available in the other versions, so a 64-bit version would be extremely handy.

Of course, there are lots of other highly technical deep code improvements ahead as well. But just looking at the items that users will notice easily, Mandriva 2011 certainly sounds very exciting. A release candidate is scheduled for April 25 and final is planned for May 30.

1jnike · 12-02-2010, 11:03 AM

Good News

Mandriva is here to stay, after ALL!!