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Old 02-08-2010, 07:50 AM   #1
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Unhappy Dial up connection


It seems to me that my dial up connection either is not configured or does not have enough software to trouble shoot,as i see just there is a network monitoring file ,which has a modem connect button ,and clicking on that button after 20 seconds says failed to connect!and then not connected message!on the lower left side of the window.
-Dialing process is not shown step by step.I think it should consist of,fist,opening port,then, dialing,then showing the results or errors which possibly occur,then trouble shooting...etc
-This way, how do i know about the reason for this failure ?
-How do i solve that?I have tried to reconfigure this connection for several times,but there were no better choices available.
-Modem is Gigabyte soft 56k,and there was no Linux driver on the CD inside the hardware package !?

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Old 02-08-2010, 07:58 AM   #2
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A good start would be to see if your hardware is supported
http://tuxmobil.org/ir_misc.html
http://www.linux-drivers.org/
and if there are drivers available

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Old 02-08-2010, 11:44 AM   #3
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If you are using Mandriva, my first question is: Did you configure the phone modem in MCC? If you did not, try setting it up there. Open MCC (Tools > System Tools > Configure Your Computer in the Menu system). In MCC navigate to Network & Internet (category list - left) > Set up a new network interface (LAN, ISDN, ADSL, ...). Choose Analog Telephone Modem (POTS), then follow the prompts.

I do not use Dial-up here, and it has been more than a decade since I did, so any additional (specific) information I may have will probably not help with the current configuration utilities. I have always obtained the best results when I use the configuration utilities provided with Mandriva. I have found them to be user friendly, and easy to use.

The configuration utility may ask to install additional software. If it does, I suggest you let it do so.

HTH,
 
Old 02-08-2010, 01:19 PM   #4
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If you are using Mandriva, my first question is: Did you configure the phone modem in MCC? If you did not, try setting it up there. Open MCC (Tools > System Tools > Configure Your Computer in the Menu system). In MCC navigate to Network & Internet (category list - left) > Set up a new network interface (LAN, ISDN, ADSL, ...). Choose Analog Telephone Modem (POTS), then follow the prompts.

I do not use Dial-up here, and it has been more than a decade since I did, so any additional (specific) information I may have will probably not help with the current configuration utilities. I have always obtained the best results when I use the configuration utilities provided with Mandriva. I have found them to be user friendly, and easy to use.

The configuration utility may ask to install additional software. If it does, I suggest you let it do so.

HTH,
Hello

If you mean Mandriva control center (MCC), yes,as i said,i reconfigured that for several times.

About the sites offered by our friend repo i will try them later,today.
 
Old 02-09-2010, 01:51 PM   #5
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A good start would be to see if your hardware is supported
http://tuxmobil.org/ir_misc.html
http://www.linux-drivers.org/
and if there are drivers available
Hello

I visited the sites,but no much help( Gigabyte state was unknown),but in my view,this is related to some configuration problems,not only on my side,but also on ISP,and telecommunication office sides too,because as i know they use windows software,and probably can not communicate with Linux
I think if the connection process consisted of more descriptive software(as i said before),then it would be more clear...
Thank you
 
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The ISP has nothing to do with this.
If the modem is recognized and the correct driver is used, it will connect.
 
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If you use the KDE Desktop environment, you may want to try using kppp to manage your dial-up connection. If you use another desktop, open the Mandriva Software Installer, and enter "ppp" (no quotes) in the text box at the top of the window, then press the ENTER key to run the search. The resulting list will have any software package with "ppp" in its name. You should find a package for your desktop environment in that list.

HTH,
 
Old 02-10-2010, 03:26 PM   #8
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If you use the KDE Desktop environment, you may want to try using kppp to manage your dial-up connection. If you use another desktop, open the Mandriva Software Installer, and enter "ppp" (no quotes) in the text box at the top of the window, then press the ENTER key to run the search. The resulting list will have any software package with "ppp" in its name. You should find a package for your desktop environment in that list.

HTH,
Hi

Yes i am using kde desktop,i had used kppp before,and did that again as you said,but still no success.

Thank you.
 
Old 02-10-2010, 03:34 PM   #9
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The ISP has nothing to do with this.
If the modem is recognized and the correct driver is used, it will connect.
Hi

I am not sure if modem is recognized,it was named as Modem0,and in some alternative ways,this message was shown:
modem is busy

Thank you.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:40 PM   #10
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Hi, while the modem is dialing, or trying to connect look in the kernel console ctrl+alt+F12, and serch for errors.

One thing I have to do frequently is

ifdown ppp0

before

ifup ppp0

To be sure, to be sure.

You may be able to search dmesg for any info on the modem.

type...
dmesg | grep modem
or
dmesg | grep ppp0

see how you go.

Regards Glenn
 
Old 02-11-2010, 11:20 AM   #11
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Hi, while the modem is dialing, or trying to connect look in the kernel console ctrl+alt+F12, and serch for errors.

One thing I have to do frequently is

ifdown ppp0

before

ifup ppp0

To be sure, to be sure.

You may be able to search dmesg for any info on the modem.

type...
dmesg | grep modem
or
dmesg | grep ppp0

see how you go.

Regards Glenn

Hi Glen

about ctrl+alt+f12 :

This part was related to modem(i could not copy,but just took note):

net_monitor[number] :runing /sbin/ifup ppp0 daemon
ifup_ppp : pppd started for ppp0 on /dev/modem at 115200
pppd[number]: pppd 2,4,3 started by root,uid 0
pppd[number]: can,t get terminal parameters : input/output error
pppd[number]:connect script failed
pppd[number]: Exit

Then because i did not knew how to exit,after typing:exit,quit.q,and pressing:esc,and ctrl+c,i had to reboot by ctrl+alt+del
---------------------------------------------
I did not understand (because of my weak knowledge) what you meant by:

Quote:
One thing I have to do frequently is

ifdown ppp0

before

ifup ppp0

To be sure, to be sure.
----------------------------------------

Quote:
You may be able to search dmesg for any info on the modem.

type...
dmesg | grep modem
or
dmesg | grep ppp0
I typed both,but, there was no output,i had typed dmesg before, and,there was a lot of output,but this time,it seems that they were accepted as commands,my be it will have an outcome later, which, i still don,t know !

Regards

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Old 02-11-2010, 10:35 PM   #12
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OK, first,
Quote:
because i did not knew how to exit,after typing:exit,quit.q,and pressing:esc,and ctrl+c,i had to reboot by ctrl+alt+del
sorry about my ommision.
to get back to the gui terminal, press ctrl+alt+F7

You generally have 8 terminals, F1 through to F7, and F12

ie, You can log-in as root in term 1, to do some special work without interfering with the users logged in to F7.

second,
Quote:
I did not understand (because of my weak knowledge) what you meant by:
....

Some times the script will be running in the background, trying to connect.

After making changes to a config file, you may need to restart the service.

And that quote is how I reset the system.

First buy stopping the service that started during the boot processes, ifdown ppp0
then by restarting it, ifup ppp0.

Thirdly,
Quote:
I typed both,but, there was no output,i had typed dmesg before, and,there was a lot of output
That just means there was nothing named ppp0 or modem in the list.

It, the modem, may not be recognised by the kernel.

You may have to research more to find out if the modem is compatible with your kernel version.

to find the version, type...

uname -a

The modem may well be supported by a newer kernel. Could be the whole problem.

try again to use grep to filter the output of

lspci and lsmod

similar as before, just change the first part...

lspci | grep modem
lspci | grep (make and or model of your modem)

see how you go.
 
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:09 PM   #13
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OK, first,


sorry about my ommision.
to get back to the gui terminal, press ctrl+alt+F7

You generally have 8 terminals, F1 through to F7, and F12

ie, You can log-in as root in term 1, to do some special work without interfering with the users logged in to F7.

second,
....

Some times the script will be running in the background, trying to connect.

After making changes to a config file, you may need to restart the service.

And that quote is how I reset the system.

First buy stopping the service that started during the boot processes, ifdown ppp0
then by restarting it, ifup ppp0.

Thirdly,


That just means there was nothing named ppp0 or modem in the list.

It, the modem, may not be recognised by the kernel.

You may have to research more to find out if the modem is compatible with your kernel version.

to find the version, type...

uname -a

The modem may well be supported by a newer kernel. Could be the whole problem.

try again to use grep to filter the output of

lspci and lsmod

similar as before, just change the first part...

lspci | grep modem
lspci | grep (make and or model of your modem)

see how you go.
Hi

typed :

uname -a

This was the output:

Linux <computer name> 2.6.17-5mdv #1 SMP Wed Sep 13 14:32:31 EDT 2006 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz GNU/Linux
--------------------------------------------------

Then typed:

lspci | grep modem

No output

typed:
lspci | grep Gigabyte soft 56k
output:
Gigabyte: no such file or directory
soft:no such file or directory
56k:no such file or directory

typed:

find modem

output:
modem: no such file or directory
-------------------------------------------
I know that modem is connected to COM3.
-------------------------------------------

Using hard drake, no modem was detected,but there were two unknown devices:

(null)

information
vendor (null)
Media class: communication-other
Bus : pci
Bus pci #:2
pci device #:3
pci function #:0
vendor ID:0x14f1
sub device ID:0x2075
Module:unknown

PC camera
.......
.........

Thank you.

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Old 02-12-2010, 03:15 PM   #14
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Using hard drake, no modem was detected,but there were two unknown devices:
You need to install the driver for your modem.
Did you verify if your modem is supported by linux, and if there is a driver available?
 
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Hi, when you do...

lspci | grep Gigabyte soft 56k

put apostrophes ' or quotes " around the string following grep.

like this...

lspci | grep 'Gigabyte soft 56k'

that should escape the spaces, which grep sees (but not only grep) as separate commands.

Next,
Quote:
information
vendor (null)
Media class: communication-other
Bus : pci
Bus pci #:2
pci device #:3
pci function #:0
vendor ID:0x14f1
sub device ID:0x2075
Module:unknown
If this is indeed the modem device, the information here is good, because it shows you pciid's (pci identification codes) for the device. Which includes Manufacturer and Model.

vendor ID:0x14f1 (Manufacturer = vendor) "14f1 Conexant Systems, Inc."
sub device ID:0x2075 (model number code = sub-device) "not listed, bad luck!"

You can look these up at pciids.com

they can be found here...
http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids (plain text)
and here...
http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ (home page)

You may be able to get it to work with an application called ...

ndiswrapper. But I have never used it and you may be best to start a new thread for that question.

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawik...itle=Main_Page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NDISwrapper

you should be able to get a mandriva .rpm package to match your Version of mandriva here...

I would check your installation cd/dvd first, with the software manager in MCC (Configure Your Computer).

If not there, try online...

http://rpm.pbone.net

Here are some that may match...

64bit, http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat...7.1.x86_64.rpm

32bit, http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat...007.1.i586.rpm

check to make sure you get the list of dependents.

you can check the list against your system with...

rpm -qs "package-name", like this...
Code:
rpm -qs ndiswrapper
package ndiswrapper is not installed
(my system) but do this for all the dependents to be sure the package will work.

I would check your installation cd/dvd first

EDIT the ndiswrapper package will try to use a M$ Windoes driver for the device, see how you go.

Regards, and all the best, Glenn

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