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Old 11-08-2003, 12:17 PM   #1
Sociologo
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Bugs in Mandrake 9.2 or the nature of the beast?


I have two questions I'd like to have help with:

1. Just started using M 9.2, and have encountered some problems. After I use the Mandrake Control Center, and even try to just browse through the various options by opening and closing categories, I lose many of the entries in the KDE menu bar. I have tried logging out and re-logging in, and even rebooting. The lost entries do not return. The only thing to make it all come back is to re-install Mandrake in the upgrading mode. Then everything returns. This has also happened when using the Control Center to change serttings and to get software upgrades or new software that is on my disks.
What's up? Can anyone tell me?

2. Each time I have re-installed M 9.2 as upgrade, the LiLO bootloader has added entries, like "old linux ???" "old windows" (I take this to mean that these are choices to which I can revert, should I want to.) However, if I wanted to edit (meaning REMOVE) these old entries, first, how do I do it? and, second, and most important, should I or could I without doing damage to the boot loader? (byt the way, the boot loader resides in the first sector of the root partition (for Mandrake).

I would appreciate some advice on these issues. Thanks in advance.

Last edited by Sociologo; 11-08-2003 at 12:20 PM.
 
Old 11-08-2003, 01:05 PM   #2
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Re: Bugs in Mandrake 9.2 or the nature of the beast?

I don't know what to say, as I am also a newbie. In short I have no reference point, as to what to expect.

I lost my evolution email menu and never figured out how to get it back.

Sure would like to know what is going on.

Maybe they'll come out with a newer version of Mandrake 9.2 minus the bugs.

d-1


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Originally posted by Sociologo
I have two questions I'd like to have help with:

1. Just started using M 9.2, and have encountered some problems. After I use the Mandrake Control Center, and even try to just browse through the various options by opening and closing categories, I lose many of the entries in the KDE menu bar. I have tried logging out and re-logging in, and even rebooting. The lost entries do not return. The only thing to make it all come back is to re-install Mandrake in the upgrading mode. Then everything returns. This has also happened when using the Control Center to change serttings and to get software upgrades or new software that is on my disks.
What's up? Can anyone tell me?

2. Each time I have re-installed M 9.2 as upgrade, the LiLO bootloader has added entries, like "old linux ???" "old windows" (I take this to mean that these are choices to which I can revert, should I want to.) However, if I wanted to edit (meaning REMOVE) these old entries, first, how do I do it? and, second, and most important, should I or could I without doing damage to the boot loader? (byt the way, the boot loader resides in the first sector of the root partition (for Mandrake).

I would appreciate some advice on these issues. Thanks in advance.
 
Old 11-08-2003, 01:20 PM   #3
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Are you saying that this also happened to you?
If so, try reinstalling in upgrading mode. It will prompt you to do this within the first four or so screens of the installation process.
 
Old 11-08-2003, 01:51 PM   #4
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ah, someone else with this problem. This a truely screwed up problem with mandrake 9.2. I was curious if it was just my copy because I got it off of a site other than an official mirror of Mandrake. See, I don't currently have the cash to be a member of the club or I would send it their way.

For a while the updates were causing random things to disapear off the application menu tree, but that seems to be fixed. I think it's a problem with their early rpm packages. Hopefully They will have this fixed when they do the general release ISO's.
 
Old 11-08-2003, 02:16 PM   #5
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Yes that's what I am saying, but I only lost my email program and I could never find it again.

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Are you saying that this also happened to you?
If so, try reinstalling in upgrading mode. It will prompt you to do this within the first four or so screens of the installation process.
 
Old 11-08-2003, 02:38 PM   #6
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from a shell, run the command "update-menus -v". This will rebuild all your missing menu trees.

This problem happened to me as well. update-menus -v fixed that problem...

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Old 11-08-2003, 05:39 PM   #7
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Dolphans1: I also lost evolution, but recovered it when I re-installed Mandrake in UPGRADING MODE. Mind you, you are NOT doing a new installation, but an upgrading. M9.2 give you a choice select the upgrading function. I got Evolution back as well as everything else. You may want to do what "edcutis" suggests in a response to my post.

Oddball79: I have a download version I got from a reputable vendor. It is a very good copy and I have no doubt that this is a bug.

edcutis: I don't have the money either to pay so that I could make them aware of this issue. Given the fact that everyone who downloaded this version will have this problem, someone with a membership will report it.
And, most importantly, thanks for your suggestion. It will certainly save me reinstallation time, and clutter in my LILO bootloader.
By the way, edcutis, do you know how I might be able to edit the entries on my LILO boot loader (please see my original post on this threat.

Thanks all.
 
Old 11-10-2003, 10:58 AM   #8
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For LILO, you can configure it via drakconf or just edit the /etc/lilo.conf and do a /sbin/lilo to install the new configuration.

Cheers,
matze
 
Old 11-10-2003, 05:23 PM   #9
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[matze:
When you say "do a /sbin/lilo" could you be more specific? Thanks I think I'm almost afraid of messing up the bootloader. Could you please elaborate?
thanks.



QUOTE]Originally posted by matze
For LILO, you can configure it via drakconf or just edit the /etc/lilo.conf and do a /sbin/lilo to install the new configuration.

Cheers,
matze
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Old 11-11-2003, 11:31 AM   #10
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Well, first of all, the configuration of LILO is stored in /etc/lilo.conf. If you edit this file, you have to enter /sbin/lilo as root on a console in order to install LILO with the current (edited) configuration.

If think of messing up your bootlader, I would first of all install a LILO with the old configuration on a startup-disk (see "man lilo" or "man lilo.conf" for details - I never did that...) to get something to rely on if something goes wrong. Having the lilo.conf file backuped is also fine.

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As I said, you can also can edit the configuration of LILO via the mandrake configuration center, system startup, configure LILO / GRUB. A bootloader configuration window shows up and the only thing you've got to do is press the ok button to get a list of bootloader entries. There you can add and remove them easily (At least, that's what I get. Not sure about menu names, I got the whole thing in German).

Cheers,
matze
 
Old 11-13-2003, 03:37 AM   #11
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Console

I think it worth mentioning that when this bug occurs, console disappears from the menu and the Home icon on the desktop becomes nonfunctional. Took me a minute to find an executable for Console under K>configuration>configure your desktop>system.
Being a newbie myself, I know how frustrating these simple things can be :-)
 
Old 11-16-2003, 08:11 PM   #12
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Very good!

I tried it and it worked. But now can you tell us how to repair the task bar?




Quote:
Originally posted by edcutis
from a shell, run the command "update-menus -v". This will rebuild all your missing menu trees.

This problem happened to me as well. update-menus -v fixed that problem...

edcutis
 
Old 11-16-2003, 08:39 PM   #13
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Regarding your question about disappearing menu entries, have a look at the posting by trihai44100 called 'Mandrake 9.2 Software Install'.

It seems that if you make changes to the menus you have to save them by right-clicking the K-Menu icon and choose Menu Editor and save. I'm not sure whether it will restore missing menu items after you have shut down and powered up, but it stops them disappearing in the first place.
 
Old 11-19-2003, 12:18 PM   #14
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Hi group,

OK, so I've been following the posts here about missing menu items and the such.

And I ran the 'update-menus -v' command and all seemed to run OK. However, it would appear I'm still missing menu items. However, I'm comparing this to what the menu looked like on my 9.1 installation.

I remember specifically that there was more than one terminal selection off the "Terminals" menu item directly off the main menu button on the task bar. Now there's only the (I am using Gnome currently) GNOME Terminal available. I remember there being a Super-User terminal, etc... And this is the case for a couple of other menu items throughout the main and sub menu selections.

Now, could it be that by default the people at MdkSoft decided to NOT install these other items like they did in 9.1? Because during both my 9.1 and now 9.2 installation when prompted to select the package groups (not the individual package selections), I selected them ALL down the left-hand side. And in 9.1 I have a SLEW more items to choose from. With 9.2 it seems they've, if in fact it was by design, whittled the selections down.

So is it by design or by deficiency that my menu items are missing? Has anyone addressed this possibility or is definite that there is a "missing menu" issue with this release?

I'm not talking about when you add or remove packages. I've experienced that annoyance as well.

Anyway, any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!!
 
Old 11-19-2003, 01:12 PM   #15
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There's a new bugfix in the Mandrake Update area called 'popt' that is supposed to fix the menu problems, I think.
 
  


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