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Old 06-22-2004, 10:05 AM   #1
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Alternatives to KDE


I'd like to investigate alternative desktop environments to KDE. My MDK10 installation includes Gnome, BlackBox, Enlightenment (and possibly others) but I can't figure out how to select them. I login from command prompt and then startx - this always gives me the KDE environment.
 
Old 06-22-2004, 11:12 AM   #2
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Well, u can use a display manager (GDM, KDM), or:
startx path_to_executable

ex:
startx /usr/bin/openbox

startx /usr/bin/gnome-session
 
Old 06-22-2004, 02:02 PM   #3
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In addition to what vinay_s_s said, you can then make aliases for those commands in your bash profile so you need only type something like enl to start enlightenment or what have you.

Or maybe you can figure out a way to map the commands to an unused media or function key?

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Old 06-22-2004, 03:18 PM   #4
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Try startx Gnome or startx Icewm. The secret I think is found in /etc/X11/Xsession which about halfway down mentions the launching of other desktops. The expression is case sensitive so you have to experiment. The other method is a bit more devastating and that is to launch a terminal first then $killall startkde which if I recall will leave you in X but remove all the decorations. Then launch another wm: $starticewm & which should introduce new decorations based on that wm. Find out first which ones you have access to. They should be in /usr/X11R6/bin and look for the word start at the beginning. You shouldn't be able to run them until you kill the current wm. From there the menus allow bouncing around other wms which the kde won't allow.
If you get messed up do the cntl/alt/backspace to do the emergency escape from X.
 
Old 06-22-2004, 04:40 PM   #5
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Thanks for the tips on accessing some of the other desktop environments from the command line. I know the easy way is to boot straight into the GUI and choose from the list of KDE, Gnome, etc, but I'm keen to learn a bit more command line control.
 
Old 06-22-2004, 06:37 PM   #6
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That's the way I used to do it in straight UNIX (OSF/1) but Linux might be even a little easier. You could even try the programs that start with start... from the black screen and see what happens. starticewm. The reason I use kde is that it is more like the MS stuff I use at work and it is quite customizable.
Were you also aware you can have concurrent X sessions. As my wife uses the startx command and ends up on the default F7 (cntl/alt/F7) window, I use another F# for my session so as not to interfere with her work.
startx -- :1 vt11 is the command that puts me on the F11 (cntl/alt/F11) key and my wife can they feel that she has not been kicked off. This could be a way to check out pretend users with different configurations. Check out which F#s the system uses for its own purpose though as Mandrake uses F12 for system logging and you will have strange behavior.
 
  


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