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Old 11-20-2005, 05:23 PM   #1
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2006 keyboard and ethernet problems


I had no difficulty installing 2006 Official. The problems came
later.
I found my ethernet dropping out every few minutes, requiring a restart

Keyboard response also tends to lag and bounce and eventually
stops responding, requiring a reboot.

Something called "Kwrited" continually dumps syslog messages
onto the desktop complaining that the cpu temp is above threshold
and clock is running modulated.
A 3 gig pentium 4 at 75 'C is not to bad. (Bios temp reading)

The syslog message also writes over the xterm command line
rendering CLI useless. The syslog daemon can be stopped, but
this is not good.

I have a Gigabyte GA-81875 ultra something with sata drives and
Nvidia graphic card. All runs OK with 10.2

I've googed a bit and only found the "Kwrited" problem.

Are these reported problems that are fixed by upgrading.>
 
Old 11-20-2005, 05:49 PM   #2
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I've had the same issue with my keyboard (Compaq USB keyboard). It stops working after I've been using it for awhile, and requires a reboot. I just installed 2006.
 
Old 11-20-2005, 09:49 PM   #3
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The program is called "Kwrite" (no "d" on the end), so searching for that might give you more info for that problem. Can't help you with any thing else, except to say that 75 C is really friggin hot for your CPU. My 2.8 Ghz P4 runs at about 35 C with the stock heatsink and fan, so that may just be what's causing problems for you.
 
Old 11-20-2005, 11:13 PM   #4
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The program is called "Kwrite" (no "d" on the end), so searching for that might give you more info for that problem. Can't help you with any thing else, except to say that 75 C is really friggin hot for your CPU. My 2.8 Ghz P4 runs at about 35 C with the stock heatsink and fan, so that may just be what's causing problems for you.
No! It's definately "Kwrited" with a "d". It must be a daemon: not to be confused with the editor of the almost same name.

I took the heat sink off, it seems stock standard. It has a cylindrical, radial finned aluminum block with a fan mounted on top. The assembly is mounted in a cradle comprising of four hooked legs, which clip onto a plastic molding which surrounds the CPU socket. The heatsink cradle has two "over centre" levers which when flipped force the heatsing down onto the CPU.

I installed some new silicon compound and ran the bios page for a while.

It sits around 65- 67'C , a bit cooler. I'll monitor it some.

Still like to load 2006 though.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 12:02 AM   #5
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Can't help you with any thing else, except to say that 75 C is really friggin hot for your CPU. My 2.8 Ghz P4 runs at about 35 C with the stock heatsink and fan, so that may just be what's causing problems for you.
Temp crept up to 68 and drops to 64 with the cover off the box. This with a spare fan I just attached to the back blowing air in.
Ambient temp here is 21'C .
I can't imagine how you run yours at 35: I'd like to get some other cpu temp references. For something that consumes a considerable amount of power, 35 degrees is unexpectedly cold
 
Old 11-21-2005, 03:19 AM   #6
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Ahh, you're undoubtedly right about Kwrite, the "d" must stand for "deamon". Sorry I can't be of more help, didn't mean to sidetrack your thread with a whole heat debate, but I have 2 P4 2.8 Ghz CPU's on two separate computers and they both run between 35 C and 40 C. Hell, the 700 Mhz Celeron squeezed into the confines of my Xbox with a tiny, aluminum heatsink and no fan runs under 60 C, according to the BIOS. There's a thread here: http://forums.majorgeeks.com/printthread.php?t=57511 about CPU temps for a 3.0 Ghz Prescott P4, and seems like the average is about 40-45 idle and 60-65 full load. I wouldn't think that would really explain yours and the other guys keyboard problem, or your ethernet either for that matter.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 07:30 AM   #7
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There's a thread here: http://forums.majorgeeks.com/printthread.php?t=57511 about CPU temps for a 3.0 Ghz Prescott P4, and seems like the average is about 40-45 idle and 60-65 full load. I wouldn't think that would really explain yours and the other guys keyboard problem, or your ethernet either for that matter.
I am concerned about the temperature thing, mainly because I don't see what I can do about it. It runs cooler with side of the case removed. I also have issues with the design of the heatsink. I don't think the normal case fan that is used actually pushes much air at all through the heat sink.

I came to this realization when I placed a spare fan against one of the empty fan grills cut into the back of the computer case and noticed how much the airflow over my hand dropped off.
Although it didn't seem like it, the apparently open grill exhibited considerable obstruction to the airflow.
Based on that observation I have some doubts that if the cooling fan can't blow though an open grill then it's not going to pushed much air through the fine ribs of the heatsink. More rubbish designed by idiots and not engineers.

The problem with the keyboard seem to be conflict with 10.2 files on my home partition. If logged on as a new user with 2006 defaults the problem goes away. I had a browser cookie difficulty due to the same problem.

The ethernet shutdown was caused by some bloody network monitoring service called "LISA". Shut down lisa and the ethernet stays up. Another clever trouble making bugger dreamt that one up.

Sometimes life is shitty.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 06:35 PM   #8
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Ahh, you still had 10.2 files lingering around. Best not to choose the "upgrade" option in any linux distro, you should always just backup your important files and do a clean install. That's probably at the root of your problems. Here's some info on "lisa" http://lisa-home.sourceforge.net/ , sounds like you should be fine without it. As far as the heat thing goes, an aftermarket heatsink and fan might help. Coolermaster and Thermaltake both make heatsink kits for the P4. I haven't used a copper heatsink before, but I've seen them, and I'm inclined to think they're probably the best, as copper is more conductive than aluminum. Just for your interest, here's my fan arrangement: Stock CPU heatsink and fan, Stock blue LED side panel case fan, two exhaust fans (like this ), two rear case fans (can't recall size or brand, and I'm too lazy to take my case apart to look), one intake, one output. But mine is an older P4, and apparently the 3 Ghz Prescott tends to run hotter anyway.
 
  


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